Unsent messages in outbox

"Julian" <Julianlzb87.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message news:0A0B42E0-1B59-46A9-8D4E-4E30FCFFE8D9@microsoft.com...
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:efIysdfiHHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Mozilla Thunderbird is free:
>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
>>
>
> Are you equally adept with TB?
> If so, I'm having a problem with TB 1.5 Add-ons.

Sorry, no. I don't use Thunderbird myself.
--
Gary VanderMolen
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Thanks for clarifying your scenario.
As a general rule, ISPs will block outgoing mail on port 25 (SMTP)
unless your computer is connected to their network at that moment.
Not all do this, but most of the bigger ISPs do that blocking for
anti-spamming reasons. It is possible that Oglecom only recently
implemented this restriction. The workaround is as follows:
If either of your two ISPs allows outgoing mail on a port other than
25 (typically 465 or 587), use *that* SMTP server for all your sending
needs. There is no requirement that the incoming and outgoing servers
have to be a matched pair.

Gary VanderMolen

"wpr" <wpr.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E722E986-7AFF-44CA-9BA4-311428CFB43A@microsoft.com...
> Hello Gary,
> Let me see if I can answer all your questions.
>
>
> 1. I have a laptop. Oglecom is the provider that I have at my office. I
> have another provider at home. When I tried to send the message yesterday, I
> was on the other provider's connection.
> Pause- a) It has never been an issue in the past 2 months.
> b) My wife has a computer with an Oglecom address and she was able to send
> an email thru her Oglecom account even though the house is on the other
> internet service.
> 2. I had tried to send emails to 4-5 different people. They all had
> different addresses. None of them worked. They all had similar messages to
> the one I posted.
> 3. As for the message I posted, at that time I was sending it to a hotmail
> account. I can not use Windows Mail for hotmail accounts they won't upload
> nor download. When I want to use hotmail I have to go online to do anything
> at all.
> 4. In the past I could send to any type of account. Now I can not send any
> type of email. Now matter what the address.
> wpr
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> When you attempted to send that message, was Oglecom
>> providing your Internet connection at that moment, or were
>> you connected to the Internet in some other fashion?
>> Were you sending To or From that hotmail.com address?
>> Are you able to send to non-hotmail addresses?
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "wpr" <wpr.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8AEA8746-E164-4E0E-9A01-D9E0C7B34D02@microsoft.com...
>> >I have been using my Windows Mail program for a couple of months. Then today
>> > I ended up w/ the same problem. I can receive but not send.
>> > I have deleted my account and created a new one. I have deleted my out
>> > going email. I don't know what else to do. A little help would be
>> > appreciated.
>> > Here is the error message:
>> > The message could not be sent. The authentication setting might not be
>> > correct for your outgoing e-mail [SMTP] server. For help solving this
>> > problem, go to Help, search for "Troubleshoot Windows Mail", and read the
>> > "I'm having problems sending e-mail" section. If you need help determining
>> > the proper server settings, please contact your e-mail service provider.
>> >
>> > The rejected e-mail address was 'Dinky6547@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test',
>> > Account: 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
>> > Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25,
>> > Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
>>
>>
>>
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Gary I appreciate you taking time to help me with this. Esp on a Sunday.
I tried both 465 and 587 with no luck.
I check my wife's computer (she has the old outlook express program. ) The
smtp is set at 25 and I could send an email via oglecom from her program. So
I don't think the problem is ISP related. But what do I know.

Here is the last error message that I got when my outgoing email failed:

The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'Re: Juda Grain', Account:
'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL):
No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E


Just so you know- I tried sending 4 ways. I did both port numbers you
suggested and I tried to send a message when the box "My server requires
authentication" was checked and unchecked. When checked I went to the next
screen and put my user name and password in a 2nd time.

wpr



"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying your scenario.
> As a general rule, ISPs will block outgoing mail on port 25 (SMTP)
> unless your computer is connected to their network at that moment.
> Not all do this, but most of the bigger ISPs do that blocking for
> anti-spamming reasons. It is possible that Oglecom only recently
> implemented this restriction. The workaround is as follows:
> If either of your two ISPs allows outgoing mail on a port other than
> 25 (typically 465 or 587), use *that* SMTP server for all your sending
> needs. There is no requirement that the incoming and outgoing servers
> have to be a matched pair.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "wpr" <wpr.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E722E986-7AFF-44CA-9BA4-311428CFB43A@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Gary,
> > Let me see if I can answer all your questions.
> >
> >
> > 1. I have a laptop. Oglecom is the provider that I have at my office. I
> > have another provider at home. When I tried to send the message yesterday, I
> > was on the other provider's connection.
> > Pause- a) It has never been an issue in the past 2 months.
> > b) My wife has a computer with an Oglecom address and she was able to send
> > an email thru her Oglecom account even though the house is on the other
> > internet service.
> > 2. I had tried to send emails to 4-5 different people. They all had
> > different addresses. None of them worked. They all had similar messages to
> > the one I posted.
> > 3. As for the message I posted, at that time I was sending it to a hotmail
> > account. I can not use Windows Mail for hotmail accounts they won't upload
> > nor download. When I want to use hotmail I have to go online to do anything
> > at all.
> > 4. In the past I could send to any type of account. Now I can not send any
> > type of email. Now matter what the address.
> > wpr
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> When you attempted to send that message, was Oglecom
> >> providing your Internet connection at that moment, or were
> >> you connected to the Internet in some other fashion?
> >> Were you sending To or From that hotmail.com address?
> >> Are you able to send to non-hotmail addresses?
> >>
> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >>
> >> "wpr" <wpr.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8AEA8746-E164-4E0E-9A01-D9E0C7B34D02@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have been using my Windows Mail program for a couple of months. Then today
> >> > I ended up w/ the same problem. I can receive but not send.
> >> > I have deleted my account and created a new one. I have deleted my out
> >> > going email. I don't know what else to do. A little help would be
> >> > appreciated.
> >> > Here is the error message:
> >> > The message could not be sent. The authentication setting might not be
> >> > correct for your outgoing e-mail [SMTP] server. For help solving this
> >> > problem, go to Help, search for "Troubleshoot Windows Mail", and read the
> >> > "I'm having problems sending e-mail" section. If you need help determining
> >> > the proper server settings, please contact your e-mail service provider.
> >> >
> >> > The rejected e-mail address was 'Dinky6547@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test',
> >> > Account: 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
> >> > Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25,
> >> > Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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Well, you can't just try a bunch of port numbers and hope one of them
works. You should only try what your ISP makes available.
Most ISPs have an online self-help page that explains what ports
their mail servers work on.

From what you said before, it appears to me that the only time
sending fails is when you use your Oglecom (office) account
while connected to your home ISP.

What doesn't make sense, though, is that your wife can send from
her Oglecom account while connected to the home ISP. By all
rules of logic, her sending should fail also.

I still think the problem is ISP-related because when you carry
your laptop to the office, you can send fine from there.

What would happen if on your laptop you changed your
Oglecom account so that it uses the home ISP outgoing
mail server?

Gary VanderMolen

"wpr" <wpr DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1010C740-4DFE-4BF1-B6D9-35DDE7201D81@microsoft.com...
> Gary I appreciate you taking time to help me with this. Esp on a Sunday.
> I tried both 465 and 587 with no luck.
> I check my wife's computer (she has the old outlook express program. ) The
> smtp is set at 25 and I could send an email via oglecom from her program. So
> I don't think the problem is ISP related. But what do I know.
>
> Here is the last error message that I got when my outgoing email failed:
>
> The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'Re: Juda Grain', Account:
> 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL):
> No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>
>
> Just so you know- I tried sending 4 ways. I did both port numbers you
> suggested and I tried to send a message when the box "My server requires
> authentication" was checked and unchecked. When checked I went to the next
> screen and put my user name and password in a 2nd time.
>
> wpr
>
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Thanks for clarifying your scenario.
>> As a general rule, ISPs will block outgoing mail on port 25 (SMTP)
>> unless your computer is connected to their network at that moment.
>> Not all do this, but most of the bigger ISPs do that blocking for
>> anti-spamming reasons. It is possible that Oglecom only recently
>> implemented this restriction. The workaround is as follows:
>> If either of your two ISPs allows outgoing mail on a port other than
>> 25 (typically 465 or 587), use *that* SMTP server for all your sending
>> needs. There is no requirement that the incoming and outgoing servers
>> have to be a matched pair.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "wpr" <wpr DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E722E986-7AFF-44CA-9BA4-311428CFB43A@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello Gary,
>> > Let me see if I can answer all your questions.
>> >
>> >
>> > 1. I have a laptop. Oglecom is the provider that I have at my office. I
>> > have another provider at home. When I tried to send the message yesterday, I
>> > was on the other provider's connection.
>> > Pause- a) It has never been an issue in the past 2 months.
>> > b) My wife has a computer with an Oglecom address and she was able to send
>> > an email thru her Oglecom account even though the house is on the other
>> > internet service.
>> > 2. I had tried to send emails to 4-5 different people. They all had
>> > different addresses. None of them worked. They all had similar messages to
>> > the one I posted.
>> > 3. As for the message I posted, at that time I was sending it to a hotmail
>> > account. I can not use Windows Mail for hotmail accounts they won't upload
>> > nor download. When I want to use hotmail I have to go online to do anything
>> > at all.
>> > 4. In the past I could send to any type of account. Now I can not send any
>> > type of email. Now matter what the address.
>> > wpr
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> When you attempted to send that message, was Oglecom
>> >> providing your Internet connection at that moment, or were
>> >> you connected to the Internet in some other fashion?
>> >> Were you sending To or From that hotmail.com address?
>> >> Are you able to send to non-hotmail addresses?
>> >>
>> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >>
>> >> "wpr" <wpr DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8AEA8746-E164-4E0E-9A01-D9E0C7B34D02@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have been using my Windows Mail program for a couple of months. Then today
>> >> > I ended up w/ the same problem. I can receive but not send.
>> >> > I have deleted my account and created a new one. I have deleted my out
>> >> > going email. I don't know what else to do. A little help would be
>> >> > appreciated.
>> >> > Here is the error message:
>> >> > The message could not be sent. The authentication setting might not be
>> >> > correct for your outgoing e-mail [SMTP] server. For help solving this
>> >> > problem, go to Help, search for "Troubleshoot Windows Mail", and read the
>> >> > "I'm having problems sending e-mail" section. If you need help determining
>> >> > the proper server settings, please contact your e-mail service provider.
>> >> >
>> >> > The rejected e-mail address was 'Dinky6547@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test',
>> >> > Account: 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
>> >> > Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25,
>> >> > Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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"Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:OM5$GkqiHHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Julian" <Julianlzb87.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0A0B42E0-1B59-46A9-8D4E-4E30FCFFE8D9@microsoft.com...
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:efIysdfiHHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Mozilla Thunderbird is free:
>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
>>>
>>
>> Are you equally adept with TB?
>> If so, I'm having a problem with TB 1.5 Add-ons.
>
> Sorry, no. I don't use Thunderbird myself.

Cheers.
I'm going to stick with WM for newsgroups anyway.
 >> Stay informed about: Unsent messages in outbox 

Gary,
You are right. I can send from the office (oglecom's IP) but not the house
(the other company's IP). I will just leave it that way.
But like you said it is strange my wife doesn't have the same problem on her
computer.
Thanks for your help.

wpr



"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> Well, you can't just try a bunch of port numbers and hope one of them
> works. You should only try what your ISP makes available.
> Most ISPs have an online self-help page that explains what ports
> their mail servers work on.
>
> From what you said before, it appears to me that the only time
> sending fails is when you use your Oglecom (office) account
> while connected to your home ISP.
>
> What doesn't make sense, though, is that your wife can send from
> her Oglecom account while connected to the home ISP. By all
> rules of logic, her sending should fail also.
>
> I still think the problem is ISP-related because when you carry
> your laptop to the office, you can send fine from there.
>
> What would happen if on your laptop you changed your
> Oglecom account so that it uses the home ISP outgoing
> mail server?
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "wpr" <wpr DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1010C740-4DFE-4BF1-B6D9-35DDE7201D81@microsoft.com...
> > Gary I appreciate you taking time to help me with this. Esp on a Sunday.
> > I tried both 465 and 587 with no luck.
> > I check my wife's computer (she has the old outlook express program. ) The
> > smtp is set at 25 and I could send an email via oglecom from her program. So
> > I don't think the problem is ISP related. But what do I know.
> >
> > Here is the last error message that I got when my outgoing email failed:
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'Re: Juda Grain', Account:
> > 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL):
> > No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> >
> > Just so you know- I tried sending 4 ways. I did both port numbers you
> > suggested and I tried to send a message when the box "My server requires
> > authentication" was checked and unchecked. When checked I went to the next
> > screen and put my user name and password in a 2nd time.
> >
> > wpr
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for clarifying your scenario.
> >> As a general rule, ISPs will block outgoing mail on port 25 (SMTP)
> >> unless your computer is connected to their network at that moment.
> >> Not all do this, but most of the bigger ISPs do that blocking for
> >> anti-spamming reasons. It is possible that Oglecom only recently
> >> implemented this restriction. The workaround is as follows:
> >> If either of your two ISPs allows outgoing mail on a port other than
> >> 25 (typically 465 or 587), use *that* SMTP server for all your sending
> >> needs. There is no requirement that the incoming and outgoing servers
> >> have to be a matched pair.
> >>
> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >>
> >> "wpr" <wpr DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E722E986-7AFF-44CA-9BA4-311428CFB43A@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello Gary,
> >> > Let me see if I can answer all your questions.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 1. I have a laptop. Oglecom is the provider that I have at my office. I
> >> > have another provider at home. When I tried to send the message yesterday, I
> >> > was on the other provider's connection.
> >> > Pause- a) It has never been an issue in the past 2 months.
> >> > b) My wife has a computer with an Oglecom address and she was able to send
> >> > an email thru her Oglecom account even though the house is on the other
> >> > internet service.
> >> > 2. I had tried to send emails to 4-5 different people. They all had
> >> > different addresses. None of them worked. They all had similar messages to
> >> > the one I posted.
> >> > 3. As for the message I posted, at that time I was sending it to a hotmail
> >> > account. I can not use Windows Mail for hotmail accounts they won't upload
> >> > nor download. When I want to use hotmail I have to go online to do anything
> >> > at all.
> >> > 4. In the past I could send to any type of account. Now I can not send any
> >> > type of email. Now matter what the address.
> >> > wpr
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> When you attempted to send that message, was Oglecom
> >> >> providing your Internet connection at that moment, or were
> >> >> you connected to the Internet in some other fashion?
> >> >> Were you sending To or From that hotmail.com address?
> >> >> Are you able to send to non-hotmail addresses?
> >> >>
> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >> >>
> >> >> "wpr" <wpr DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8AEA8746-E164-4E0E-9A01-D9E0C7B34D02@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have been using my Windows Mail program for a couple of months. Then today
> >> >> > I ended up w/ the same problem. I can receive but not send.
> >> >> > I have deleted my account and created a new one. I have deleted my out
> >> >> > going email. I don't know what else to do. A little help would be
> >> >> > appreciated.
> >> >> > Here is the error message:
> >> >> > The message could not be sent. The authentication setting might not be
> >> >> > correct for your outgoing e-mail [SMTP] server. For help solving this
> >> >> > problem, go to Help, search for "Troubleshoot Windows Mail", and read the
> >> >> > "I'm having problems sending e-mail" section. If you need help determining
> >> >> > the proper server settings, please contact your e-mail service provider.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The rejected e-mail address was 'Dinky6547@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test',
> >> >> > Account: 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
> >> >> > Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25,
> >> >> > Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Unsent messages in outbox 

There are always workarounds for problems like yours.
You could get a free Gmail account and use it for all your
sending chores, since Gmail will send regardless of where
you connect from.

Gary VanderMolen

"wpr" <wpr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F2BCF023-0763-4348-B997-5EF9DACD60BD@microsoft.com...
> Gary,
> You are right. I can send from the office (oglecom's IP) but not the house
> (the other company's IP). I will just leave it that way.
> But like you said it is strange my wife doesn't have the same problem on her
> computer.
> Thanks for your help.
>
> wpr
>
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Well, you can't just try a bunch of port numbers and hope one of them
>> works. You should only try what your ISP makes available.
>> Most ISPs have an online self-help page that explains what ports
>> their mail servers work on.
>>
>> From what you said before, it appears to me that the only time
>> sending fails is when you use your Oglecom (office) account
>> while connected to your home ISP.
>>
>> What doesn't make sense, though, is that your wife can send from
>> her Oglecom account while connected to the home ISP. By all
>> rules of logic, her sending should fail also.
>>
>> I still think the problem is ISP-related because when you carry
>> your laptop to the office, you can send fine from there.
>>
>> What would happen if on your laptop you changed your
>> Oglecom account so that it uses the home ISP outgoing
>> mail server?
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "wpr" <wpr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1010C740-4DFE-4BF1-B6D9-35DDE7201D81@microsoft.com...
>> > Gary I appreciate you taking time to help me with this. Esp on a Sunday.
>> > I tried both 465 and 587 with no luck.
>> > I check my wife's computer (she has the old outlook express program. ) The
>> > smtp is set at 25 and I could send an email via oglecom from her program. So
>> > I don't think the problem is ISP related. But what do I know.
>> >
>> > Here is the last error message that I got when my outgoing email failed:
>> >
>> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'Re: Juda Grain', Account:
>> > 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL):
>> > No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>> >
>> >
>> > Just so you know- I tried sending 4 ways. I did both port numbers you
>> > suggested and I tried to send a message when the box "My server requires
>> > authentication" was checked and unchecked. When checked I went to the next
>> > screen and put my user name and password in a 2nd time.
>> >
>> > wpr
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for clarifying your scenario.
>> >> As a general rule, ISPs will block outgoing mail on port 25 (SMTP)
>> >> unless your computer is connected to their network at that moment.
>> >> Not all do this, but most of the bigger ISPs do that blocking for
>> >> anti-spamming reasons. It is possible that Oglecom only recently
>> >> implemented this restriction. The workaround is as follows:
>> >> If either of your two ISPs allows outgoing mail on a port other than
>> >> 25 (typically 465 or 587), use *that* SMTP server for all your sending
>> >> needs. There is no requirement that the incoming and outgoing servers
>> >> have to be a matched pair.
>> >>
>> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >>
>> >> "wpr" <wpr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E722E986-7AFF-44CA-9BA4-311428CFB43A@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello Gary,
>> >> > Let me see if I can answer all your questions.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. I have a laptop. Oglecom is the provider that I have at my office. I
>> >> > have another provider at home. When I tried to send the message yesterday, I
>> >> > was on the other provider's connection.
>> >> > Pause- a) It has never been an issue in the past 2 months.
>> >> > b) My wife has a computer with an Oglecom address and she was able to send
>> >> > an email thru her Oglecom account even though the house is on the other
>> >> > internet service.
>> >> > 2. I had tried to send emails to 4-5 different people. They all had
>> >> > different addresses. None of them worked. They all had similar messages to
>> >> > the one I posted.
>> >> > 3. As for the message I posted, at that time I was sending it to a hotmail
>> >> > account. I can not use Windows Mail for hotmail accounts they won't upload
>> >> > nor download. When I want to use hotmail I have to go online to do anything
>> >> > at all.
>> >> > 4. In the past I could send to any type of account. Now I can not send any
>> >> > type of email. Now matter what the address.
>> >> > wpr
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> When you attempted to send that message, was Oglecom
>> >> >> providing your Internet connection at that moment, or were
>> >> >> you connected to the Internet in some other fashion?
>> >> >> Were you sending To or From that hotmail.com address?
>> >> >> Are you able to send to non-hotmail addresses?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "wpr" <wpr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8AEA8746-E164-4E0E-9A01-D9E0C7B34D02@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I have been using my Windows Mail program for a couple of months. Then today
>> >> >> > I ended up w/ the same problem. I can receive but not send.
>> >> >> > I have deleted my account and created a new one. I have deleted my out
>> >> >> > going email. I don't know what else to do. A little help would be
>> >> >> > appreciated.
>> >> >> > Here is the error message:
>> >> >> > The message could not be sent. The authentication setting might not be
>> >> >> > correct for your outgoing e-mail [SMTP] server. For help solving this
>> >> >> > problem, go to Help, search for "Troubleshoot Windows Mail", and read the
>> >> >> > "I'm having problems sending e-mail" section. If you need help determining
>> >> >> > the proper server settings, please contact your e-mail service provider.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The rejected e-mail address was 'Dinky6547@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test',
>> >> >> > Account: 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
>> >> >> > Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25,
>> >> >> > Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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I had this problem today and I am using Outlook. However, I reboot my
Comcast modem and recycled (rebooted by holding the small pin on the
rightside if your holding the router frontwards) my Linksys router. I was
able to get connected with all my computers.

"Michelle" wrote:

> I have unsent messages in my outbox. I get an error message regarding the
> POP3 or something like that. What could the problem be?
> --
> Michelle Maust
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I tried several times to get Gmail to send from my computer Windows Mail. It
won't. I will just send my emails from the office.

Thanks for your help.

wpr




"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> There are always workarounds for problems like yours.
> You could get a free Gmail account and use it for all your
> sending chores, since Gmail will send regardless of where
> you connect from.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "wpr" <wpr.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F2BCF023-0763-4348-B997-5EF9DACD60BD@microsoft.com...
> > Gary,
> > You are right. I can send from the office (oglecom's IP) but not the house
> > (the other company's IP). I will just leave it that way.
> > But like you said it is strange my wife doesn't have the same problem on her
> > computer.
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > wpr
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> Well, you can't just try a bunch of port numbers and hope one of them
> >> works. You should only try what your ISP makes available.
> >> Most ISPs have an online self-help page that explains what ports
> >> their mail servers work on.
> >>
> >> From what you said before, it appears to me that the only time
> >> sending fails is when you use your Oglecom (office) account
> >> while connected to your home ISP.
> >>
> >> What doesn't make sense, though, is that your wife can send from
> >> her Oglecom account while connected to the home ISP. By all
> >> rules of logic, her sending should fail also.
> >>
> >> I still think the problem is ISP-related because when you carry
> >> your laptop to the office, you can send fine from there.
> >>
> >> What would happen if on your laptop you changed your
> >> Oglecom account so that it uses the home ISP outgoing
> >> mail server?
> >>
> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >>
> >> "wpr" <wpr.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1010C740-4DFE-4BF1-B6D9-35DDE7201D81@microsoft.com...
> >> > Gary I appreciate you taking time to help me with this. Esp on a Sunday.
> >> > I tried both 465 and 587 with no luck.
> >> > I check my wife's computer (she has the old outlook express program. ) The
> >> > smtp is set at 25 and I could send an email via oglecom from her program. So
> >> > I don't think the problem is ISP related. But what do I know.
> >> >
> >> > Here is the last error message that I got when my outgoing email failed:
> >> >
> >> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'Re: Juda Grain', Account:
> >> > 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL):
> >> > No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Just so you know- I tried sending 4 ways. I did both port numbers you
> >> > suggested and I tried to send a message when the box "My server requires
> >> > authentication" was checked and unchecked. When checked I went to the next
> >> > screen and put my user name and password in a 2nd time.
> >> >
> >> > wpr
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks for clarifying your scenario.
> >> >> As a general rule, ISPs will block outgoing mail on port 25 (SMTP)
> >> >> unless your computer is connected to their network at that moment.
> >> >> Not all do this, but most of the bigger ISPs do that blocking for
> >> >> anti-spamming reasons. It is possible that Oglecom only recently
> >> >> implemented this restriction. The workaround is as follows:
> >> >> If either of your two ISPs allows outgoing mail on a port other than
> >> >> 25 (typically 465 or 587), use *that* SMTP server for all your sending
> >> >> needs. There is no requirement that the incoming and outgoing servers
> >> >> have to be a matched pair.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >> >>
> >> >> "wpr" <wpr.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E722E986-7AFF-44CA-9BA4-311428CFB43A@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hello Gary,
> >> >> > Let me see if I can answer all your questions.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1. I have a laptop. Oglecom is the provider that I have at my office. I
> >> >> > have another provider at home. When I tried to send the message yesterday, I
> >> >> > was on the other provider's connection.
> >> >> > Pause- a) It has never been an issue in the past 2 months.
> >> >> > b) My wife has a computer with an Oglecom address and she was able to send
> >> >> > an email thru her Oglecom account even though the house is on the other
> >> >> > internet service.
> >> >> > 2. I had tried to send emails to 4-5 different people. They all had
> >> >> > different addresses. None of them worked. They all had similar messages to
> >> >> > the one I posted.
> >> >> > 3. As for the message I posted, at that time I was sending it to a hotmail
> >> >> > account. I can not use Windows Mail for hotmail accounts they won't upload
> >> >> > nor download. When I want to use hotmail I have to go online to do anything
> >> >> > at all.
> >> >> > 4. In the past I could send to any type of account. Now I can not send any
> >> >> > type of email. Now matter what the address.
> >> >> > wpr
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> When you attempted to send that message, was Oglecom
> >> >> >> providing your Internet connection at that moment, or were
> >> >> >> you connected to the Internet in some other fashion?
> >> >> >> Were you sending To or From that hotmail.com address?
> >> >> >> Are you able to send to non-hotmail addresses?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "wpr" <wpr.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8AEA8746-E164-4E0E-9A01-D9E0C7B34D02@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I have been using my Windows Mail program for a couple of months. Then today
> >> >> >> > I ended up w/ the same problem. I can receive but not send.
> >> >> >> > I have deleted my account and created a new one. I have deleted my out
> >> >> >> > going email. I don't know what else to do. A little help would be
> >> >> >> > appreciated.
> >> >> >> > Here is the error message:
> >> >> >> > The message could not be sent. The authentication setting might not be
> >> >> >> > correct for your outgoing e-mail [SMTP] server. For help solving this
> >> >> >> > problem, go to Help, search for "Troubleshoot Windows Mail", and read the
> >> >> >> > "I'm having problems sending e-mail" section. If you need help determining
> >> >> >> > the proper server settings, please contact your e-mail service provider.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The rejected e-mail address was 'Dinky6547@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test',
> >> >> >> > Account: 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
> >> >> >> > Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25,
> >> >> >> > Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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All I can say is that Gmail works for just about everyone who has tried it.
If you get a Gmail error message, I'll be glad to analyze it.

Gary VanderMolen

"wpr" <wpr.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1169383A-E590-4647-A36F-592E1E807EBE@microsoft.com...
>I tried several times to get Gmail to send from my computer Windows Mail. It
> won't. I will just send my emails from the office.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> wpr
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> There are always workarounds for problems like yours.
>> You could get a free Gmail account and use it for all your
>> sending chores, since Gmail will send regardless of where
>> you connect from.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "wpr" <wpr.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F2BCF023-0763-4348-B997-5EF9DACD60BD@microsoft.com...
>> > Gary,
>> > You are right. I can send from the office (oglecom's IP) but not the house
>> > (the other company's IP). I will just leave it that way.
>> > But like you said it is strange my wife doesn't have the same problem on her
>> > computer.
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > wpr
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, you can't just try a bunch of port numbers and hope one of them
>> >> works. You should only try what your ISP makes available.
>> >> Most ISPs have an online self-help page that explains what ports
>> >> their mail servers work on.
>> >>
>> >> From what you said before, it appears to me that the only time
>> >> sending fails is when you use your Oglecom (office) account
>> >> while connected to your home ISP.
>> >>
>> >> What doesn't make sense, though, is that your wife can send from
>> >> her Oglecom account while connected to the home ISP. By all
>> >> rules of logic, her sending should fail also.
>> >>
>> >> I still think the problem is ISP-related because when you carry
>> >> your laptop to the office, you can send fine from there.
>> >>
>> >> What would happen if on your laptop you changed your
>> >> Oglecom account so that it uses the home ISP outgoing
>> >> mail server?
>> >>
>> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >>
>> >> "wpr" <wpr.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1010C740-4DFE-4BF1-B6D9-35DDE7201D81@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Gary I appreciate you taking time to help me with this. Esp on a Sunday.
>> >> > I tried both 465 and 587 with no luck.
>> >> > I check my wife's computer (she has the old outlook express program. ) The
>> >> > smtp is set at 25 and I could send an email via oglecom from her program. So
>> >> > I don't think the problem is ISP related. But what do I know.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is the last error message that I got when my outgoing email failed:
>> >> >
>> >> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'Re: Juda Grain', Account:
>> >> > 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL):
>> >> > No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Just so you know- I tried sending 4 ways. I did both port numbers you
>> >> > suggested and I tried to send a message when the box "My server requires
>> >> > authentication" was checked and unchecked. When checked I went to the next
>> >> > screen and put my user name and password in a 2nd time.
>> >> >
>> >> > wpr
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thanks for clarifying your scenario.
>> >> >> As a general rule, ISPs will block outgoing mail on port 25 (SMTP)
>> >> >> unless your computer is connected to their network at that moment.
>> >> >> Not all do this, but most of the bigger ISPs do that blocking for
>> >> >> anti-spamming reasons. It is possible that Oglecom only recently
>> >> >> implemented this restriction. The workaround is as follows:
>> >> >> If either of your two ISPs allows outgoing mail on a port other than
>> >> >> 25 (typically 465 or 587), use *that* SMTP server for all your sending
>> >> >> needs. There is no requirement that the incoming and outgoing servers
>> >> >> have to be a matched pair.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "wpr" <wpr.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E722E986-7AFF-44CA-9BA4-311428CFB43A@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Hello Gary,
>> >> >> > Let me see if I can answer all your questions.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1. I have a laptop. Oglecom is the provider that I have at my office. I
>> >> >> > have another provider at home. When I tried to send the message yesterday, I
>> >> >> > was on the other provider's connection.
>> >> >> > Pause- a) It has never been an issue in the past 2 months.
>> >> >> > b) My wife has a computer with an Oglecom address and she was able to send
>> >> >> > an email thru her Oglecom account even though the house is on the other
>> >> >> > internet service.
>> >> >> > 2. I had tried to send emails to 4-5 different people. They all had
>> >> >> > different addresses. None of them worked. They all had similar messages to
>> >> >> > the one I posted.
>> >> >> > 3. As for the message I posted, at that time I was sending it to a hotmail
>> >> >> > account. I can not use Windows Mail for hotmail accounts they won't upload
>> >> >> > nor download. When I want to use hotmail I have to go online to do anything
>> >> >> > at all.
>> >> >> > 4. In the past I could send to any type of account. Now I can not send any
>> >> >> > type of email. Now matter what the address.
>> >> >> > wpr
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> When you attempted to send that message, was Oglecom
>> >> >> >> providing your Internet connection at that moment, or were
>> >> >> >> you connected to the Internet in some other fashion?
>> >> >> >> Were you sending To or From that hotmail.com address?
>> >> >> >> Are you able to send to non-hotmail addresses?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "wpr" <wpr.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8AEA8746-E164-4E0E-9A01-D9E0C7B34D02@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >I have been using my Windows Mail program for a couple of months. Then today
>> >> >> >> > I ended up w/ the same problem. I can receive but not send.
>> >> >> >> > I have deleted my account and created a new one. I have deleted my out
>> >> >> >> > going email. I don't know what else to do. A little help would be
>> >> >> >> > appreciated.
>> >> >> >> > Here is the error message:
>> >> >> >> > The message could not be sent. The authentication setting might not be
>> >> >> >> > correct for your outgoing e-mail [SMTP] server. For help solving this
>> >> >> >> > problem, go to Help, search for "Troubleshoot Windows Mail", and read the
>> >> >> >> > "I'm having problems sending e-mail" section. If you need help determining
>> >> >> >> > the proper server settings, please contact your e-mail service provider.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The rejected e-mail address was 'Dinky6547@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test',
>> >> >> >> > Account: 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
>> >> >> >> > Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25,
>> >> >> >> > Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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"Michelle" wrote:

> I have unsent messages in my outbox. I get an error message regarding the
> POP3 or something like that. What could the problem be?
> --
> Michelle Maust
 >> Stay informed about: Unsent messages in outbox 

Gary;I tried to download outlook express and vista would not install it,
because it tells me I have a higher internet explorer.It seems somehow to be
hooked in there somwhere. Thanks in advance Pony

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> Welcome to the club!
>
> There are a few workarounds floating around, but several people
> have reported severe corruption of their message store afterwards,
> so I don't recommend the current crop of workarounds.
>
> If you really can't send with Windows Mail due to the stuck message
> in the Outbox, then either send that message with web mail, or else
> install another email program like Thunderbird or Microsoft Outlook.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Cecil" <Cecil DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E2BD4526-A34D-4D3F-B607-BE1E77281C25@microsoft.com...
> > When I try to delete the 1st message in the OUTBOX that seems to be holding
> > up the sending of subsequent messages, I get a message "Unknown error has
> > occurred". Then another box drops down with the message "Deleting messages"
> > but none get deleted.
> >
> > "Patsy Dalton" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Michelle" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have unsent messages in my outbox. I get an error message regarding the
> >> > POP3 or something like that. What could the problem be?
> >> > --
> >> > Michelle Maust
> >>
> >> have the same problem I don't think I'm opening my account properly do I
> >> sign in with my msn account e-mail address. and follow throught as if I were
> >> getting mail in and out through msn?
> >>
>
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Outlook Express can not be installed in Vista.
Installing Outlook Express was not one of my suggestions.
Please reread my suggestions below.
Those suggestions were written a few weeks ago, and since then
there have been two new developments that affect this issue:

1. Steve Cochran has released a utility program that will remove
a stuck message from the Outbox:
Go to http://www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/
When you start to download the wmutil.zip file,
be sure to choose Save rather than Run.
After it finishes downloading choose Run, then Extract. Then it will
show the extraction folder with two files in it, WMUtil.exe and scxout.dll.
Run WMUtil.exe, wait until the buttons become active, then click on
Clear Outbox. It may take a while. Before you start, make sure
Windows Mail is not running.

2. Microsoft has announced that they will release a new email
program later this month. If you can wait a few weeks, I'd suggest
holding out for that. Or else, if you can't wait, download and install
the Thunderbird email program.

Gary VanderMolen

"baldeagle110" <baldeagle110 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3B9063FB-37DC-4DAC-A0B0-EBD4C97C3039@microsoft.com...
> Gary;I tried to download outlook express and vista would not install it,
> because it tells me I have a higher internet explorer.It seems somehow to be
> hooked in there somwhere. Thanks in advance Pony
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Welcome to the club!
>>
>> There are a few workarounds floating around, but several people
>> have reported severe corruption of their message store afterwards,
>> so I don't recommend the current crop of workarounds.
>>
>> If you really can't send with Windows Mail due to the stuck message
>> in the Outbox, then either send that message with web mail, or else
>> install another email program like Thunderbird or Microsoft Outlook.
>>