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antoine_lucas_fr

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:13 am
Post subject: 32 Gb of bad sectors on a 60 Gb hd (long)
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Hello,

I have a "funny" story on a laptop Dell Inspiron with XP sp2 and a
Fujitsu MHV2060AH (60 Gb) which contains about only 6 Gb of datas

1/ The notebook boots but xp don't starts. After some tests (chkdsk,
recovery and so on) Dell changes the hd : some (*** few ***) bad
sectors on windows directory.

2/ When I have the new hd, I make a copy with Ghost (I can use the old
one with an IDE / USB adaptator ; chkdsk on it before the copy).

3/ With the new hd the laptop boots well and xp starts. Nice.

4/ chkdsk new hd => 38062432 kb of bad sectors ... :(After that I try
chkdsk by the console, at boot, ...)

5/ So I try :
- HD tune 2.51 => Error scan => no bad sectors
- FJDT (Fujitsu ATA Diagnostic Tool) => no bad sectors
- Dell utilities => no errors
- ONTRACK Data Advisor => no bad sectors

6/ And now ? Can I recovery this bad sectors without format my hard
disk ?

Thank you

PS : sorry for my poor english.

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antoine_lucas_fr

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:21 am
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Gerry Cornell a écrit :

Hello,

> Will you please post a copy of the Health tab in HD Tune?

HD Tune: FUJITSU MHV2060AH Health

ID Current Worst Threshold Data Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 46 8621 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 0 18219008 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 100 100 25 0 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 15 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 24 0 Ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 0 3991 Ok
(0Cool Seek Time Performance 100 100 0 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 205578 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 0 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 14 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 0 791 Ok
(C2) Temperature 100 100 0 1245221 Ok
(C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 100 100 0 53 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 457310208 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok
(CCool Write Error Rate 100 100 0 19690 Ok
(CB) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 -8126615 Ok

Power On Time : 205578
Health Status : Ok

> What is the make and model of the computer? Is the hard drive formatted

Dell Inspiron 510m

> as FAT32 or NTFS -see Info tab in HD Tune. What is shown as the drive

NTFS

> capacity?
For the xp partition : 54329 Mb. Usage is 81,87%

> With what tool was the drive formatted?

Ghost (when copy the old disk)

> > A 32 gb bad sector report doesn't sound right. It could be a partition
> problem.

>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
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> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a "funny" story on a laptop Dell Inspiron with XP sp2 and a
> > Fujitsu MHV2060AH (60 Gb) which contains about only 6 Gb of datas
> >
> > 1/ The notebook boots but xp don't starts. After some tests (chkdsk,
> > recovery and so on) Dell changes the hd : some (*** few ***) bad
> > sectors on windows directory.
> >
> > 2/ When I have the new hd, I make a copy with Ghost (I can use the old
> > one with an IDE / USB adaptator ; chkdsk on it before the copy).
> >
> > 3/ With the new hd the laptop boots well and xp starts. Nice.
> >
> > 4/ chkdsk new hd => 38062432 kb of bad sectors ... :(After that I try
> > chkdsk by the console, at boot, ...)
> >
> > 5/ So I try :
> > - HD tune 2.51 => Error scan => no bad sectors
> > - FJDT (Fujitsu ATA Diagnostic Tool) => no bad sectors
> > - Dell utilities => no errors
> > - ONTRACK Data Advisor => no bad sectors
> >
> > 6/ And now ? Can I recovery this bad sectors without format my hard
> > disk ?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > PS : sorry for my poor english.
> >

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:15 am
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Will you please post a copy of the Health tab in HD Tune?

What is the make and model of the computer? Is the hard drive formatted
as FAT32 or NTFS -see Info tab in HD Tune. What is shown as the drive
capacity? With what tool was the drive formatted?

A 32 gb bad sector report doesn't sound right. It could be a partition
problem.

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Hope this helps.

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> Hello,
>
> I have a "funny" story on a laptop Dell Inspiron with XP sp2 and a
> Fujitsu MHV2060AH (60 Gb) which contains about only 6 Gb of datas
>
> 1/ The notebook boots but xp don't starts. After some tests (chkdsk,
> recovery and so on) Dell changes the hd : some (*** few ***) bad
> sectors on windows directory.
>
> 2/ When I have the new hd, I make a copy with Ghost (I can use the old
> one with an IDE / USB adaptator ; chkdsk on it before the copy).
>
> 3/ With the new hd the laptop boots well and xp starts. Nice.
>
> 4/ chkdsk new hd => 38062432 kb of bad sectors ... :(After that I try
> chkdsk by the console, at boot, ...)
>
> 5/ So I try :
> - HD tune 2.51 => Error scan => no bad sectors
> - FJDT (Fujitsu ATA Diagnostic Tool) => no bad sectors
> - Dell utilities => no errors
> - ONTRACK Data Advisor => no bad sectors
>
> 6/ And now ? Can I recovery this bad sectors without format my hard
> disk ?
>
> Thank you
>
> PS : sorry for my poor english.
>
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Ron Martell2

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:19 pm
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antoine_lucas_fr DeleteThis @yahoo.fr wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I have a "funny" story on a laptop Dell Inspiron with XP sp2 and a
>Fujitsu MHV2060AH (60 Gb) which contains about only 6 Gb of datas
>
>1/ The notebook boots but xp don't starts. After some tests (chkdsk,
>recovery and so on) Dell changes the hd : some (*** few ***) bad
>sectors on windows directory.
>
>2/ When I have the new hd, I make a copy with Ghost (I can use the old
>one with an IDE / USB adaptator ; chkdsk on it before the copy).
>
>3/ With the new hd the laptop boots well and xp starts. Nice.
>
>4/ chkdsk new hd => 38062432 kb of bad sectors ... :(After that I try
>chkdsk by the console, at boot, ...)
>
>5/ So I try :
>- HD tune 2.51 => Error scan => no bad sectors
>- FJDT (Fujitsu ATA Diagnostic Tool) => no bad sectors
>- Dell utilities => no errors
>- ONTRACK Data Advisor => no bad sectors
>
>6/ And now ? Can I recovery this bad sectors without format my hard
>disk ?

The best available utility for recovering bad sectors and restoring
them to use is Spinrite from Gibson Research (www.grc.com)

However there are some other points to consider:

1. The cost of Spinrite is probably pretty close to that of a new
hard drive, so a new drive is probably worth considering.

2. Spinrite can take a considerable amount of time to examine and
restore good sectors to use so fixing 32 gb worth of bad ones could
take forever plus a week.

If you still have the Ghost backup image available, or if you can
create a new one from the new hard drive, then I would suggest that
you do that then delete the partition completely from the new hard
drive, repartition it, reformat and reinstall.

The bottom line is that a hard drive with half its capacity tied up in
bad sectors is not a good idea under any circumstances, and whatever
caused those bad sectors is likely to happen again, causing even more
problems.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:50 pm
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Curious... Did you find a fix for this?

I am having same problems with the 40 GB version of this same drive on an Inspiron 8200. The drive is brand new (mfg Nov 2005). I detect NTFS corruption immediately after WinXP install, and the system degrades rapidly (have to reboot multiple times to get stable system).

I have the same problem with two other drives (two other brands), and also on an Inspiron 8000, so I don't know that buying a new drive will solve the problem.

I notice the Fujitsu has a utility to adjust DMA, etc. settings on the drive. I'm going to try that next. Fujitsu's web site made some mention that some systems accept a higher DMA than they really can support, and the results sounded similar to this problem.

Lee
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:36 pm
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Crud... the utilities are for different models. Sad
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