Dam validation thing

Leythos wrote:
> In article , theplea.RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uKAY
> says...
>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I get??
>>
>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and all
>> that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>
>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a new PCI
>> sata card.
>>
>> So I try to use the activation software ... dam thing can't find a network
>> connection, and using the website just says I need to pay 65 quid!!!
>>
>> I can't even do it by telephone as the provided number is a dead tone!!!!!
>>
>> Flipping Microsoft - I hope my PC fixes itself with in the 3 days I have
>> left!!!!!
>
> And for three days you could easily install the Network card driver and
> get it activated quickly. You could also call, for free, and get it
> activated.
>
> It's long been know that changing hardware can/may cause an activation
> event. Your "The only other hardware..." is telling, the SATA card
> changes a number of things, the NIC another, that's enough...
>

Yep, that's enough to force a paying customer to, once again, use the
flawed and ineffective "anti piracy" programs instead of using the
operating system the OP paid for to prove that he or she isn't a pirate.

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"Leythos" wrote in message

> In article , theplea.DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uKAY
> says...
>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I get??
>>
>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and all
>> that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>
>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a new
>> PCI
>> sata card.
>>
>> So I try to use the activation software ... dam thing can't find a
>> network
>> connection, and using the website just says I need to pay 65 quid!!!
>>
>> I can't even do it by telephone as the provided number is a dead
>> tone!!!!!
>>
>> Flipping Microsoft - I hope my PC fixes itself with in the 3 days I have
>> left!!!!!
>
> And for three days you could easily install the Network card driver and
> get it activated quickly. You could also call, for free, and get it
> activated.

I have installed the driver and general internet activity works, but the
activation app doesn't. When I click through and go for the phone option,
the 0800 (UK) number doesn't work either - what am I supposed to do.

> It's long been know that changing hardware can/may cause an activation
> event. Your "The only other hardware..." is telling, the SATA card
> changes a number of things, the NIC another, that's enough...

I know this and am fully aware - but changing one NIC and adding a SATA
card?? Come on - it's hardly building a new PC is it?

iPleb
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:03:13 +0100, "iPleb"
wrote:

>Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I get??
>
>On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and all
>that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>
>The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a new PCI
>sata card.
>
>So I try to use the activation software ... dam thing can't find a network
>connection, and using the website just says I need to pay 65 quid!!!
>
>I can't even do it by telephone as the provided number is a dead tone!!!!!
>
>Flipping Microsoft - I hope my PC fixes itself with in the 3 days I have
>left!!!!!
>
>iPleb


Call Microsoft support. WGA keeps a hardware change tally in a given
time period. Have your invoice, CD, and Product Key ready. There are
probably thousands of Windows users having similar issues with
validation. Microsoft validation servers were "on the blink" a few
days ago but are working fine today.
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> iPleb wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>>
>>> In article , theplea.TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uKAY
>>> says...
>>>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I
>>>> get??
>>>>
>>>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and
>>>> all
>>>> that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>>>
>>>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a
>>>> new PCI
>>>> sata card.
>>>>
>>>> So I try to use the activation software ... dam thing can't find a
>>>> network
>>>> connection, and using the website just says I need to pay 65 quid!!!
>>>>
>>>> I can't even do it by telephone as the provided number is a dead
>>>> tone!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Flipping Microsoft - I hope my PC fixes itself with in the 3 days I
>>>> have
>>>> left!!!!!
>>>
>>> And for three days you could easily install the Network card driver and
>>> get it activated quickly. You could also call, for free, and get it
>>> activated.
>>
>> I have installed the driver and general internet activity works, but the
>> activation app doesn't. When I click through and go for the phone option,
>> the 0800 (UK) number doesn't work either - what am I supposed to do.
>>
>>> It's long been know that changing hardware can/may cause an activation
>>> event. Your "The only other hardware..." is telling, the SATA card
>>> changes a number of things, the NIC another, that's enough...
>>
>> I know this and am fully aware - but changing one NIC and adding a SATA
>> card?? Come on - it's hardly building a new PC is it?
>>
>> iPleb
>
> If you think this is bad with XP, try Hasta la Vista, Baby.
>
> One alternative you might want to consider is Ubuntu.

Funny you should say that, as I was just thinking about giving my new
connection speed a work out

iPleb
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Phisherman wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:03:13 +0100, "iPleb"
> wrote:
>
>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I get??
>>
>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and all
>> that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>
>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a new PCI
>> sata card.
>>
>> So I try to use the activation software ... dam thing can't find a network
>> connection, and using the website just says I need to pay 65 quid!!!
>>
>> I can't even do it by telephone as the provided number is a dead tone!!!!!
>>
>> Flipping Microsoft - I hope my PC fixes itself with in the 3 days I have
>> left!!!!!
>>
>> iPleb
>
>
> Call Microsoft support. WGA keeps a hardware change tally in a given
> time period. Have your invoice, CD, and Product Key ready. There are
> probably thousands of Windows users having similar issues with
> validation. Microsoft validation servers were "on the blink" a few
> days ago but are working fine today.

Did you miss this?:

"I can't even do it by telephone as the provided number is a dead tone!!!!!"

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iPleb wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" wrote in message
> news:#dfGpIk6HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> iPleb wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> In article , theplea.TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uKAY
>>>> says...
>>>>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I
>>>>> get??
>>>>>
>>>>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate"
>>>>> and all
>>>>> that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>>>>
>>>>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is
>>>>> a new PCI
>>>>> sata card.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I try to use the activation software ... dam thing can't find a
>>>>> network
>>>>> connection, and using the website just says I need to pay 65 quid!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't even do it by telephone as the provided number is a dead
>>>>> tone!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Flipping Microsoft - I hope my PC fixes itself with in the 3 days I
>>>>> have
>>>>> left!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> And for three days you could easily install the Network card driver and
>>>> get it activated quickly. You could also call, for free, and get it
>>>> activated.
>>>
>>> I have installed the driver and general internet activity works, but
>>> the activation app doesn't. When I click through and go for the phone
>>> option, the 0800 (UK) number doesn't work either - what am I supposed
>>> to do.
>>>
>>>> It's long been know that changing hardware can/may cause an activation
>>>> event. Your "The only other hardware..." is telling, the SATA card
>>>> changes a number of things, the NIC another, that's enough...
>>>
>>> I know this and am fully aware - but changing one NIC and adding a
>>> SATA card?? Come on - it's hardly building a new PC is it?
>>>
>>> iPleb
>>
>> If you think this is bad with XP, try Hasta la Vista, Baby.
>>
>> One alternative you might want to consider is Ubuntu.
>
> Funny you should say that, as I was just thinking about giving my new
> connection speed a work out
>
> iPleb

Let me know how it goes

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"iPleb" wrote in message

> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I get??
>
> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and all
> that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>
> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a new
> PCI sata card.
>

Your PCI Sata card counts as a change to the hardware configuration.

Unfortunately, the nework card counts as *three* changes and hence the
reactivation is triggered.

As you have discovered, reactivation under such circumstances is a complete
pain in arse because it won't work on line (because you are deemed to have
transfered XP to a different PC).
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"Leythos" wrote in message

> In article , theplea.TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uKAY
> says...
>> I know this and am fully aware - but changing one NIC and adding a SATA
>> card?? Come on - it's hardly building a new PC is it?
>
> Based on the number of things that you changed - moved drive controller,
> drives, NIC, that's three things - and it only takes three things. If
> you updated the BIOS it would count as several changes.
>

Not correct. The BIOS is *not* one of the parameters that are recorded for
activation purposes.

For the record, the parameters are:

Primary CD-ROM type
SCSI Card Type
Primary Hard drive type
Primary Partition Volume Serial Number [1]
Graphics Card Type
Memory Size
Processor Type
Processor Serial Number [2]
Primary IDE Adaptopr Type
Network Card MAC Address (This counts as 3 changes).

In general, 4 changes will trip a reactivation (7 if a network card is
installed and remains unchanged).

[1] This generally means that replacing a hard drive counts as 1 change
(becomes 2 changes if a different type is installed).

[2] This means that replacing the processor counts as 1 change (becomes 2
changes if a different type is installed).
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"M.I.5¾" wrote in message

>
> "iPleb" wrote in message
>
>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I get??
>>
>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and all
>> that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>
>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a new
>> PCI sata card.
>>
>
> Your PCI Sata card counts as a change to the hardware configuration.
>
> Unfortunately, the nework card counts as *three* changes and hence the
> reactivation is triggered.
>
> As you have discovered, reactivation under such circumstances is a
> complete pain in arse because it won't work on line (because you are
> deemed to have transfered XP to a different PC).

Ha that explains that then ... managed to do the phone activation in the end
.... phew ... Do you know why a NIC card counts as three changes?

iPleb
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iPleb wrote:
>
>
> "M.I.5¾" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "iPleb" wrote in message
>>
>>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I get??
>>>
>>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and
>>> all that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>>
>>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a
>>> new PCI sata card.
>>>
>>
>> Your PCI Sata card counts as a change to the hardware configuration.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the nework card counts as *three* changes and hence the
>> reactivation is triggered.
>>
>> As you have discovered, reactivation under such circumstances is a
>> complete pain in arse because it won't work on line (because you are
>> deemed to have transfered XP to a different PC).
>
> Ha that explains that then ... managed to do the phone activation in the
> end ... phew ... Do you know why a NIC card counts as three changes?
>
> iPleb

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of Redmond?

The Shadow do but he ain't telling!

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iPleb wrote:

>
>
> "M.I.5¾" wrote in message
>
>
>>
>> "iPleb" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I get??
>>>
>>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and
>>> all that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>>
>>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a
>>> new PCI sata card.
>>>
>>
>> Your PCI Sata card counts as a change to the hardware configuration.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the nework card counts as *three* changes and hence the
>> reactivation is triggered.
>>
>> As you have discovered, reactivation under such circumstances is a
>> complete pain in arse because it won't work on line (because you are
>> deemed to have transfered XP to a different PC).
>
>
> Ha that explains that then ... managed to do the phone activation in the
> end ... phew ... Do you know why a NIC card counts as three changes?
>
> iPleb

No, it counts for 3 POINTS, out of 10, is called weighting.
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Bob I wrote:
>
>
> iPleb wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "M.I.5¾" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>
>>> "iPleb" wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I
>>>> get??
>>>>
>>>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate"
>>>> and all that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>>>
>>>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a
>>>> new PCI sata card.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your PCI Sata card counts as a change to the hardware configuration.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the nework card counts as *three* changes and hence
>>> the reactivation is triggered.
>>>
>>> As you have discovered, reactivation under such circumstances is a
>>> complete pain in arse because it won't work on line (because you are
>>> deemed to have transfered XP to a different PC).
>>
>>
>> Ha that explains that then ... managed to do the phone activation in
>> the end ... phew ... Do you know why a NIC card counts as three changes?
>>
>> iPleb
>
> No, it counts for 3 POINTS, out of 10, is called weighting.
>

Why does the NIC card have more points than, say, the video card? It
most certainly doesn't *weigh* more.

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"iPleb" wrote in message

>
>
> "M.I.5¾" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "iPleb" wrote in message
>>
>>> Today, I installed a new Network card into my XP box and what do I get??
>>>
>>> On reboot, "Your version of XP is not validated, please activate" and
>>> all that stuff (grrrrrrrrr)
>>>
>>> The only other hardware I've installed over the last few months is a new
>>> PCI sata card.
>>>
>>
>> Your PCI Sata card counts as a change to the hardware configuration.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the nework card counts as *three* changes and hence the
>> reactivation is triggered.
>>
>> As you have discovered, reactivation under such circumstances is a
>> complete pain in arse because it won't work on line (because you are
>> deemed to have transfered XP to a different PC).
>
> Ha that explains that then ... managed to do the phone activation in the
> end ... phew ... Do you know why a NIC card counts as three changes?

Because Microsoft decided that it did.
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