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spasmous1

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:56 pm
Post subject: Intermittent BSOD, but now straight crash
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I was away for about 2 weeks and left my computer on. Judging by the
virus check log, on the 30th June my computer crashed out. When I
returned I rebooted and set it up so that it went to the BSOD to give
me an idea what was happening.

In the last 3 days I've had about a dozen crashes. The first few went
to BSOD with various messages (page_fault_in_nonpaged_area,
driver_irql_not_less_or_equal, etc.) I looked up the message but
nothing applies, since the computer was untouched during my absence.

I thought maybe memory was corrupt - I have 3X 512MB slots filled. I've
used each memory block in turn and each time I've experienced a crash,
so I'm not sure about that any more - can all 3 be corrupted?!?

Plus I'm now crashing straight to total death now (black screen,
unresponsive, tho computer-power light still on) rather than BSOD. The
crashes come irregularly - sometimes in 5 mins sometimes in a couple of
hours. They "kind of" correspond with heavy CPU load but not always.

Any suggestions or help appreciated Smile

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Michael T

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:05 pm
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Any Event Viewer errors - i.e., flagged with a red X?

Any drivers flagged bad in Device Manager?


wrote in message

>I was away for about 2 weeks and left my computer on. Judging by the
> virus check log, on the 30th June my computer crashed out. When I
> returned I rebooted and set it up so that it went to the BSOD to give
> me an idea what was happening.
>
> In the last 3 days I've had about a dozen crashes. The first few went
> to BSOD with various messages (page_fault_in_nonpaged_area,
> driver_irql_not_less_or_equal, etc.) I looked up the message but
> nothing applies, since the computer was untouched during my absence.
>
> I thought maybe memory was corrupt - I have 3X 512MB slots filled. I've
> used each memory block in turn and each time I've experienced a crash,
> so I'm not sure about that any more - can all 3 be corrupted?!?
>
> Plus I'm now crashing straight to total death now (black screen,
> unresponsive, the computer-power light still on) rather than BSOD. The
> crashes come irregularly - sometimes in 5 mins sometimes in a couple of
> hours. They "kind of" correspond with heavy CPU load but not always.
>
> Any suggestions or help appreciated Smile
>

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spasmous1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:55 pm
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In event viewer under system there is an Info message that looks odd:

Source: Sentinal
Category: None
Type: Information
Event ID: 1
Description: The description for EventID(1) in Source(Sential) cannot
be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry
information of message DLL files to display messages from a remote
computer... etc.

In application there are several Errors and Warnings. The most recent
two are warnings from Microsoft Fax (note: I have no fax installed).

Description: Fax Service failed to initialize any assigned fax devices.
No faxes can be sent or received until a fax device is installed.

Description: The outgoing routing rule is not valid because it cannot
find a valid device... etc.

The error is from an ftp server I am running (WARFTP). It's been
running fine for months tho'. The message is:

Error: E [war_error_logger] Exception from line 116 in file
C:\devel\current\war170\igaadb\src\DbConnection.cpp. Database error in
module "DbConnection.... blah blah blah". Data souce name not found and
no default driver specified.


Maybe I'll uninstall WARFTP and see how that goes.







Michael T wrote:
> Any Event Viewer errors - i.e., flagged with a red X?
>
> Any drivers flagged bad in Device Manager?
>
>
> wrote in message
>
> >I was away for about 2 weeks and left my computer on. Judging by the
> > virus check log, on the 30th June my computer crashed out. When I
> > returned I rebooted and set it up so that it went to the BSOD to give
> > me an idea what was happening.
> >
> > In the last 3 days I've had about a dozen crashes. The first few went
> > to BSOD with various messages (page_fault_in_nonpaged_area,
> > driver_irql_not_less_or_equal, etc.) I looked up the message but
> > nothing applies, since the computer was untouched during my absence.
> >
> > I thought maybe memory was corrupt - I have 3X 512MB slots filled. I've
> > used each memory block in turn and each time I've experienced a crash,
> > so I'm not sure about that any more - can all 3 be corrupted?!?
> >
> > Plus I'm now crashing straight to total death now (black screen,
> > unresponsive, the computer-power light still on) rather than BSOD. The
> > crashes come irregularly - sometimes in 5 mins sometimes in a couple of
> > hours. They "kind of" correspond with heavy CPU load but not always.
> >
> > Any suggestions or help appreciated Smile
> >
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Michael T

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:32 pm
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wrote in message

>
> Source: Sentinal
> Category: None
> Type: Information
> Event ID: 1
> Description: The description for EventID(1) in Source(Sential) cannot
> be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry
> information of message DLL files to display messages from a remote
> computer... etc.
>
> The error is from an ftp server I am running (WARFTP). It's been
> running fine for months tho'. The message is:
>
> Error: E [war_error_logger] Exception from line 116 in file
> C:\devel\current\war170\igaadb\src\DbConnection.cpp. Database error in
> module "DbConnection.... blah blah blah". Data souce name not found and
> no default driver specified.
>
> Maybe I'll uninstall WARFTP and see how that goes.
>

Sounds like as good an idea as anything I can come up with. Unfortunately I
am not familiar with Sentinal (or is it Sentinel) or WARFTP, so your choice
is as good as mine - probably better in fact.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:36 pm
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> This error is from an ftp server I am running (WARFTP). It's been
> running fine for months though. The message is:
>
> Error: E [war_error_logger] Exception from line 116 in file
> C:\devel\current\war170\igaadb\src\DbConnection.cpp. Database error in
> module "DbConnection.... blah blah blah". Data souce name not found and
> no default driver specified.
>

Apparently others are seeing a very similar error.
http://support.jgaa.com/index.php?cmd=ShowReport&ID=02672
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:46 pm
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Thanks for helping - I uninstalled WARFTP, rebooted and lo and
behold... crashed out again! WARFTP is innocent. The only other app
running is AVG antivirus - I've unintalled that now. Will let you know
what happens in an hour or so Smile



Michael T wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> > This error is from an ftp server I am running (WARFTP). It's been
> > running fine for months though. The message is:
> >
> > Error: E [war_error_logger] Exception from line 116 in file
> > C:\devel\current\war170\igaadb\src\DbConnection.cpp. Database error in
> > module "DbConnection.... blah blah blah". Data souce name not found and
> > no default driver specified.
> >
>
> Apparently others are seeing a very similar error.
> http://support.jgaa.com/index.php?cmd=ShowReport&ID=02672
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:09 pm
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wrote in message

> Thanks for helping - I uninstalled WARFTP, rebooted and lo and
> behold... crashed out again! WARFTP is innocent. The only other app
> running is AVG antivirus - I've unintalled that now. Will let you know
> what happens in an hour or so Smile
>
>

FYI, irregular intervals between crashes can sometimes indicate a hardware
problem - such as power supply, fan, mother board or memory. Since you left
your PC running for about two weeks I wouldn't rule this out. But I sure
hope for your sake this is not the case. Just food for thought (or
indigestion).
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:13 pm
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Ah... I think so - but not memory, I checked. A colleague says it looks
like a C: drive failure. It's weird, I turned the computer off last
night. First thing this morning, it wouldn't even get to the login
prompt. Then it got there but bailed soon after, then after a few more
tries it would run for a few minutes, then... you get the picture. Ie.
something was warming up.

I've left it off for now and have called in IT help. Hopefully they'll
be able to recover my hard drive contents. BTW, this is the 4th Dell in
2 years (out of 5 purchased) that have died in one way or another. Is
this a record - or typical for Dell???





Michael T wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> > Thanks for helping - I uninstalled WARFTP, rebooted and lo and
> > behold... crashed out again! WARFTP is innocent. The only other app
> > running is AVG antivirus - I've unintalled that now. Will let you know
> > what happens in an hour or so Smile
> >
> >
>
> FYI, irregular intervals between crashes can sometimes indicate a hardware
> problem - such as power supply, fan, mother board or memory. Since you left
> your PC running for about two weeks I wouldn't rule this out. But I sure
> hope for your sake this is not the case. Just food for thought (or
> indigestion).
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:15 pm
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wrote in message

> BTW, this is the 4th Dell in
> 2 years (out of 5 purchased) that have
> died in one way or another. Is
> this a record - or typical for Dell???
>

I've bought two Dells that have been problem free. But a co-worker bought
one a year ago and within the first month the hard drive went bad. Overall I
think these hard drive problems are rare given Dell's success, but I have
not seen and statistics to back that up.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:15 pm
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" " wrote:

> Ah... I think so - but not memory, I checked. A colleague says it looks
> like a C: drive failure. It's weird, I turned the computer off last
> night. First thing this morning, it wouldn't even get to the login
> prompt. Then it got there but bailed soon after, then after a few more
> tries it would run for a few minutes, then... you get the picture. Ie.
> something was warming up.
>
> I've left it off for now and have called in IT help. Hopefully they'll
> be able to recover my hard drive contents. BTW, this is the 4th Dell in
> 2 years (out of 5 purchased) that have died in one way or another. Is
> this a record - or typical for Dell???
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael T wrote:
> > wrote in message
> >
> > > Thanks for helping - I uninstalled WARFTP, rebooted and lo and
> > > behold... crashed out again! WARFTP is innocent. The only other app
> > > running is AVG antivirus - I've unintalled that now. Will let you know
> > > what happens in an hour or so Smile
> > >
> > >
> >
> > FYI, irregular intervals between crashes can sometimes indicate a hardware
> > problem - such as power supply, fan, mother board or memory. Since you left
> > your PC running for about two weeks I wouldn't rule this out. But I sure
> > hope for your sake this is not the case. Just food for thought (or
> > indigestion).
>
> Actually I have a Dell and the thing locks up alot but now I have a new computer (though I think the RAM is bad).
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