Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram

Thanks John, the links you provided have me looing into how to back up the
registry first. I'm going to start there first.
Marc

"John John" wrote:

> Wheresmymemory wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from 300-400Mb
> > at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think I've seen it as high
> > as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in
> > TM processes is less than the Qty recorded in TM performance. I down loaded
> > a page file size program and get the following at startup:
> > Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
> > Session Peak Usuage: 76
> > Current Pagefile Size: 1536
> > After several days:
> > Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
> > Session Peak Usuage: 1590
> > Current Pagefile Size: 1714
> > It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
> > Thanks
>
> Using Performance Monitor to Identify a Pool Leak
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130926/
>
> How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
> Memory Leaks
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415
>
> http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?q=poolmon&qsc0=0&SearchBtn0=S...ch&FORM
> http://www.delmar.edu/Courses/ITSY2400/eBooks/WinXP(PerformanceTuning).pdf
>
> John
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

Do you use any old 16 bit programmes? These often do not release memory
until you restart the computer.

Programmes which have an Undo feature e.g. photo editing will consume
inordinate amounts until you finalise what you are editing.

Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes which version?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on
your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this information.

What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on
your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get
this information.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Wheresmymemory wrote:
> Hi,
> If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from
> 300-400Mb at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think
> I've seen it as high as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0.
> Adding up the mem usuage in TM processes is less than the Qty
> recorded in TM performance. I down loaded a page file size program
> and get the following at startup:
> Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
> Session Peak Usuage: 76
> Current Pagefile Size: 1536
> After several days:
> Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
> Session Peak Usuage: 1590
> Current Pagefile Size: 1714
> It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
> Thanks
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

1. No
2. Yes, TurboCad. this happens when I'm not using TurboCad.
3. Adobe Reader 8
4. Currently: T=810000, L-3510000, P=863000
5. 3 Ghz, 2GB

"Gerry" wrote:

> Do you use any old 16 bit programmes? These often do not release memory
> until you restart the computer.
>
> Programmes which have an Undo feature e.g. photo editing will consume
> inordinate amounts until you finalise what you are editing.
>
> Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes which version?
>
> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>
> How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on
> your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this information.
>
> What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on
> your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get
> this information.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> Wheresmymemory wrote:
> > Hi,
> > If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from
> > 300-400Mb at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think
> > I've seen it as high as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0.
> > Adding up the mem usuage in TM processes is less than the Qty
> > recorded in TM performance. I down loaded a page file size program
> > and get the following at startup:
> > Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
> > Session Peak Usuage: 76
> > Current Pagefile Size: 1536
> > After several days:
> > Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
> > Session Peak Usuage: 1590
> > Current Pagefile Size: 1714
> > It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
> > Thanks
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

There are known problems with Adobe Reader 8 in terms of memory leaks.
Which version exactly do you have? Is it the free or a purchased
version?

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc2ffd5

Do you use it to read only or do you use it's editing capability?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wheresmymemory wrote:
> 1. No
> 2. Yes, TurboCad. this happens when I'm not using TurboCad.
> 3. Adobe Reader 8
> 4. Currently: T=810000, L-3510000, P=863000
> 5. 3 Ghz, 2GB
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> Do you use any old 16 bit programmes? These often do not release
>> memory until you restart the computer.
>>
>> Programmes which have an Undo feature e.g. photo editing will consume
>> inordinate amounts until you finalise what you are editing.
>>
>> Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes which version?
>>
>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
>> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>>
>> How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on
>> your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this
>> information.
>>
>> What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on
>> your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get
>> this information.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> Wheresmymemory wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from
>>> 300-400Mb at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think
>>> I've seen it as high as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0.
>>> Adding up the mem usuage in TM processes is less than the Qty
>>> recorded in TM performance. I down loaded a page file size program
>>> and get the following at startup:
>>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
>>> Session Peak Usuage: 76
>>> Current Pagefile Size: 1536
>>> After several days:
>>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
>>> Session Peak Usuage: 1590
>>> Current Pagefile Size: 1714
>>> It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
>>> Thanks
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

Adobe 8.0.0. Free version. I only use it to view.

"Gerry" wrote:

> There are known problems with Adobe Reader 8 in terms of memory leaks.
> Which version exactly do you have? Is it the free or a purchased
> version?
>
> http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc2ffd5
>
> Do you use it to read only or do you use it's editing capability?
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Wheresmymemory wrote:
> > 1. No
> > 2. Yes, TurboCad. this happens when I'm not using TurboCad.
> > 3. Adobe Reader 8
> > 4. Currently: T=810000, L-3510000, P=863000
> > 5. 3 Ghz, 2GB
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> Do you use any old 16 bit programmes? These often do not release
> >> memory until you restart the computer.
> >>
> >> Programmes which have an Undo feature e.g. photo editing will consume
> >> inordinate amounts until you finalise what you are editing.
> >>
> >> Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes which version?
> >>
> >> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
> >> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
> >>
> >> How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on
> >> your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this
> >> information.
> >>
> >> What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on
> >> your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get
> >> this information.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >> Wheresmymemory wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from
> >>> 300-400Mb at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think
> >>> I've seen it as high as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0.
> >>> Adding up the mem usuage in TM processes is less than the Qty
> >>> recorded in TM performance. I down loaded a page file size program
> >>> and get the following at startup:
> >>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
> >>> Session Peak Usuage: 76
> >>> Current Pagefile Size: 1536
> >>> After several days:
> >>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
> >>> Session Peak Usuage: 1590
> >>> Current Pagefile Size: 1714
> >>> It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
> >>> Thanks
>
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

Uninstall Adobe. If you only use Adobe to read documents you might find
Foxit Reader (freeware) a more satisfactory programme:
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php

Test it out and observe the affect on memory usage.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wheresmymemory wrote:
> Adobe 8.0.0. Free version. I only use it to view.
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> There are known problems with Adobe Reader 8 in terms of memory
>> leaks. Which version exactly do you have? Is it the free or a
>> purchased version?
>>
>> http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc2ffd5
>>
>> Do you use it to read only or do you use it's editing capability?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Wheresmymemory wrote:
>>> 1. No
>>> 2. Yes, TurboCad. this happens when I'm not using TurboCad.
>>> 3. Adobe Reader 8
>>> 4. Currently: T=810000, L-3510000, P=863000
>>> 5. 3 Ghz, 2GB
>>>
>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you use any old 16 bit programmes? These often do not release
>>>> memory until you restart the computer.
>>>>
>>>> Programmes which have an Undo feature e.g. photo editing will
>>>> consume inordinate amounts until you finalise what you are editing.
>>>>
>>>> Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes which version?
>>>>
>>>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
>>>> Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
>>>> and the Peak?
>>>>
>>>> How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on
>>>> your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>> What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click
>>>> on your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to
>>>> get this information.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wheresmymemory wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from
>>>>> 300-400Mb at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think
>>>>> I've seen it as high as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around
>>>>> 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in TM processes is less than the Qty
>>>>> recorded in TM performance. I down loaded a page file size
>>>>> program and get the following at startup:
>>>>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
>>>>> Session Peak Usuage: 76
>>>>> Current Pagefile Size: 1536
>>>>> After several days:
>>>>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
>>>>> Session Peak Usuage: 1590
>>>>> Current Pagefile Size: 1714
>>>>> It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
>>>>> Thanks
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

Yes, it runs in the Command Console, what we commonly refer to as a the
Command Prompt.

John

Wheresmymemory wrote:
> John,
> Poolmon requires I access Start/Settings/Control Panel/Console. I don't
> have Console in my Control Panel. Can I use the Windows 2000 method,
> Start/Run/cmd/properties?
>
> "John John" wrote:
>
>
>>Wheresmymemory wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from 300-400Mb
>>>at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think I've seen it as high
>>>as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in
>>>TM processes is less than the Qty recorded in TM performance. I down loaded
>>>a page file size program and get the following at startup:
>>>Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
>>>Session Peak Usuage: 76
>>>Current Pagefile Size: 1536
>>>After several days:
>>>Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
>>>Session Peak Usuage: 1590
>>>Current Pagefile Size: 1714
>>>It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
>>>Thanks
>>
>>Using Performance Monitor to Identify a Pool Leak
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130926/
>>
>>How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
>>Memory Leaks
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415
>>
>>http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?q=poolmon&qsc0=0&SearchBtn0=Search&FORM=QBME1&l=1&mkt=en-US&PageType=99
>>http://www.delmar.edu/Courses/ITSY2400/eBooks/WinXP(PerformanceTuning).pdf
>>
>>John
>>
>>
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

If you only use it to read , try using Foxitsoftware reader , easier
to use and much smaller program .





On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:18:01 -0700, Wheresmymemory
wrote:

>Adobe 8.0.0. Free version. I only use it to view.
>
>"Gerry" wrote:
>
>> There are known problems with Adobe Reader 8 in terms of memory leaks.
>> Which version exactly do you have? Is it the free or a purchased
>> version?
>>
>> http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc2ffd5
>>
>> Do you use it to read only or do you use it's editing capability?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Wheresmymemory wrote:
>> > 1. No
>> > 2. Yes, TurboCad. this happens when I'm not using TurboCad.
>> > 3. Adobe Reader 8
>> > 4. Currently: T=810000, L-3510000, P=863000
>> > 5. 3 Ghz, 2GB
>> >
>> > "Gerry" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you use any old 16 bit programmes? These often do not release
>> >> memory until you restart the computer.
>> >>
>> >> Programmes which have an Undo feature e.g. photo editing will consume
>> >> inordinate amounts until you finalise what you are editing.
>> >>
>> >> Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes which version?
>> >>
>> >> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
>> >> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>> >>
>> >> How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on
>> >> your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this
>> >> information.
>> >>
>> >> What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on
>> >> your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get
>> >> this information.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> Gerry
>> >> ~~~~
>> >> FCA
>> >> Stourport, England
>> >> Enquire, plan and execute
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wheresmymemory wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from
>> >>> 300-400Mb at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think
>> >>> I've seen it as high as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0.
>> >>> Adding up the mem usuage in TM processes is less than the Qty
>> >>> recorded in TM performance. I down loaded a page file size program
>> >>> and get the following at startup:
>> >>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
>> >>> Session Peak Usuage: 76
>> >>> Current Pagefile Size: 1536
>> >>> After several days:
>> >>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
>> >>> Session Peak Usuage: 1590
>> >>> Current Pagefile Size: 1714
>> >>> It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
>> >>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

Sorry to pester you again. My OS is XP Prof. but I am unable to find
poolmon.exe on my drive. To get gflags.exe I had to down load the 'Debuging
Tools for Windows'. I've reviewed several of the tech docs for poolmon and it
appears that this finding a memory leak is pretty involved. I plan to get
poolmon running and evaluate whether or not i'm up to the task.

Thanks for your help,
Marc

"John John" wrote:

> Yes, it runs in the Command Console, what we commonly refer to as a the
> Command Prompt.
>
> John
>
> Wheresmymemory wrote:
> > John,
> > Poolmon requires I access Start/Settings/Control Panel/Console. I don't
> > have Console in my Control Panel. Can I use the Windows 2000 method,
> > Start/Run/cmd/properties?
> >
> > "John John" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Wheresmymemory wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from 300-400Mb
> >>>at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think I've seen it as high
> >>>as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in
> >>>TM processes is less than the Qty recorded in TM performance. I down loaded
> >>>a page file size program and get the following at startup:
> >>>Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
> >>>Session Peak Usuage: 76
> >>>Current Pagefile Size: 1536
> >>>After several days:
> >>>Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
> >>>Session Peak Usuage: 1590
> >>>Current Pagefile Size: 1714
> >>>It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
> >>>Thanks
> >>
> >>Using Performance Monitor to Identify a Pool Leak
> >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130926/
> >>
> >>How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
> >>Memory Leaks
> >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415
> >>
> >>http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?q=poolmon&qsc0=0&SearchBtn0=Search&FORM=QBME1&l=1&mkt=en-US&PageType=99
> >>http://www.delmar.edu/Courses/ITSY2400/eBooks/WinXP(PerformanceTuning).pdf
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

Poolmon is a Resource Kit tool, you can download the kit here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=49AE8576-9BB9...26-9761

Yes, this is a "pretty involved" tool! Use other methods first to see
if the pool leak is caused by an application or process. If you cannot
find an application at fault then the pool leak might be caused by a
driver, use poolmon to try to find out which driver might be leaky.
Read KB298102 (How to Find Pool Tags That Are Used By Third-Party
Drivers) to decipher the tags. Poolmon *is* difficult to use! It
requires advanced skills and you will have to read up on it, finding
leaky drivers is usually a difficult task.

Drivers.exe, another Resource Kit utility, can also be used to try to
find driver paged pool leak, snap it to file when you start the
computer, at a Command Prompt redirect the output to file:

Drivers >C:\leaky.txt

then snap it again at various intervals and append to the log file:

Drivers >>C:\leaky.txt

(Note the double >> to append to the existing file) You can open the
file with a spreadsheet program to make it easier to read an interpret
the output, the "Paged" values are what you would be interested in.

For applications you can monitor them with Perfmon or you can do much
the same as with drivers.exe above by using Memsnap.exe which is also an
RK utility.

John

Wheresmymemory wrote:
> Sorry to pester you again. My OS is XP Prof. but I am unable to find
> poolmon.exe on my drive. To get gflags.exe I had to down load the 'Debuging
> Tools for Windows'. I've reviewed several of the tech docs for poolmon and it
> appears that this finding a memory leak is pretty involved. I plan to get
> poolmon running and evaluate whether or not i'm up to the task.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Marc
>
> "John John" wrote:
>
>
>>Yes, it runs in the Command Console, what we commonly refer to as a the
>>Command Prompt.
>>
>>John
>>
>>Wheresmymemory wrote:
>>
>>>John,
>>>Poolmon requires I access Start/Settings/Control Panel/Console. I don't
>>>have Console in my Control Panel. Can I use the Windows 2000 method,
>>>Start/Run/cmd/properties?
>>>
>>>"John John" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Wheresmymemory wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from 300-400Mb
>>>>>at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think I've seen it as high
>>>>>as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in
>>>>>TM processes is less than the Qty recorded in TM performance. I down loaded
>>>>>a page file size program and get the following at startup:
>>>>>Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
>>>>>Session Peak Usuage: 76
>>>>>Current Pagefile Size: 1536
>>>>>After several days:
>>>>>Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
>>>>>Session Peak Usuage: 1590
>>>>>Current Pagefile Size: 1714
>>>>>It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Using Performance Monitor to Identify a Pool Leak
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130926/
>>>>
>>>>How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
>>>>Memory Leaks
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415
>>>>
>>>>http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?q=poolmon&qsc0=0&SearchBtn0=Search&FORM=QBME1&l=1&mkt=en-US&PageType=99
>>>>http://www.delmar.edu/Courses/ITSY2400/eBooks/WinXP(PerformanceTuning).pdf
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

Thanks again. If I ever get to the bottom of this I'll report back.
Marc

"John John" wrote:

> Poolmon is a Resource Kit tool, you can download the kit here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=49AE8576-9BB9...26-9761
>
> Yes, this is a "pretty involved" tool! Use other methods first to see
> if the pool leak is caused by an application or process. If you cannot
> find an application at fault then the pool leak might be caused by a
> driver, use poolmon to try to find out which driver might be leaky.
> Read KB298102 (How to Find Pool Tags That Are Used By Third-Party
> Drivers) to decipher the tags. Poolmon *is* difficult to use! It
> requires advanced skills and you will have to read up on it, finding
> leaky drivers is usually a difficult task.
>
> Drivers.exe, another Resource Kit utility, can also be used to try to
> find driver paged pool leak, snap it to file when you start the
> computer, at a Command Prompt redirect the output to file:
>
> Drivers >C:\leaky.txt
>
> then snap it again at various intervals and append to the log file:
>
> Drivers >>C:\leaky.txt
>
> (Note the double >> to append to the existing file) You can open the
> file with a spreadsheet program to make it easier to read an interpret
> the output, the "Paged" values are what you would be interested in.
>
> For applications you can monitor them with Perfmon or you can do much
> the same as with drivers.exe above by using Memsnap.exe which is also an
> RK utility.
>
> John
>
> Wheresmymemory wrote:
> > Sorry to pester you again. My OS is XP Prof. but I am unable to find
> > poolmon.exe on my drive. To get gflags.exe I had to down load the 'Debuging
> > Tools for Windows'. I've reviewed several of the tech docs for poolmon and it
> > appears that this finding a memory leak is pretty involved. I plan to get
> > poolmon running and evaluate whether or not i'm up to the task.
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> > Marc
> >
> > "John John" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Yes, it runs in the Command Console, what we commonly refer to as a the
> >>Command Prompt.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>Wheresmymemory wrote:
> >>
> >>>John,
> >>>Poolmon requires I access Start/Settings/Control Panel/Console. I don't
> >>>have Console in my Control Panel. Can I use the Windows 2000 method,
> >>>Start/Run/cmd/properties?
> >>>
> >>>"John John" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Wheresmymemory wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes from 300-400Mb
> >>>>>at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I think I've seen it as high
> >>>>>as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at around 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in
> >>>>>TM processes is less than the Qty recorded in TM performance. I down loaded
> >>>>>a page file size program and get the following at startup:
> >>>>>Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
> >>>>>Session Peak Usuage: 76
> >>>>>Current Pagefile Size: 1536
> >>>>>After several days:
> >>>>>Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
> >>>>>Session Peak Usuage: 1590
> >>>>>Current Pagefile Size: 1714
> >>>>>It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
> >>>>>Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>>Using Performance Monitor to Identify a Pool Leak
> >>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130926/
> >>>>
> >>>>How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
> >>>>Memory Leaks
> >>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415
> >>>>
> >>>>http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?q=poolmon&qsc0=0&SearchBtn0=Search&FORM=QBME1&l=1&mkt=en-US&PageType=99
> >>>>http://www.delmar.edu/Courses/ITSY2400/eBooks/WinXP(PerformanceTuning).pdf
> >>>>
> >>>>John
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

Are you sure your problem is not Adobe Acrobat Reader? See my earlier
post!


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wheresmymemory wrote:
> Sorry to pester you again. My OS is XP Prof. but I am unable to find
> poolmon.exe on my drive. To get gflags.exe I had to down load the
> 'Debuging Tools for Windows'. I've reviewed several of the tech docs
> for poolmon and it appears that this finding a memory leak is pretty
> involved. I plan to get poolmon running and evaluate whether or not
> i'm up to the task.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Marc
>
> "John John" wrote:
>
>> Yes, it runs in the Command Console, what we commonly refer to as a
>> the Command Prompt.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Wheresmymemory wrote:
>>> John,
>>> Poolmon requires I access Start/Settings/Control Panel/Console. I
>>> don't have Console in my Control Panel. Can I use the Windows 2000
>>> method, Start/Run/cmd/properties?
>>>
>>> "John John" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wheresmymemory wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes
>>>>> from 300-400Mb at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I
>>>>> think I've seen it as high as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at
>>>>> around 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in TM processes is less than
>>>>> the Qty recorded in TM performance. I down loaded a page file
>>>>> size program and get the following at startup:
>>>>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
>>>>> Session Peak Usuage: 76
>>>>> Current Pagefile Size: 1536
>>>>> After several days:
>>>>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
>>>>> Session Peak Usuage: 1590
>>>>> Current Pagefile Size: 1714
>>>>> It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Using Performance Monitor to Identify a Pool Leak
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130926/
>>>>
>>>> How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot
>>>> Kernel Mode Memory Leaks
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415
>>>>
>>>> http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?q=poolmon&qsc0=0&SearchBtn0=S...ch&FORM
>>>> http://www.delmar.edu/Courses/ITSY2400/eBooks/WinXP(PerformanceTuning).pdf
>>>>
>>>> John
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram 

I haven't used Adobe in several days. I 've restarted My computer at least 3
times since then and Task Manager currently reports 1.13 Gb in PF usuage. It
usually starts out at about 350Mb. Is this someting that happens even if you
are not running the program?
Marc

"Gerry" wrote:

> Are you sure your problem is not Adobe Acrobat Reader? See my earlier
> post!
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Wheresmymemory wrote:
> > Sorry to pester you again. My OS is XP Prof. but I am unable to find
> > poolmon.exe on my drive. To get gflags.exe I had to down load the
> > 'Debuging Tools for Windows'. I've reviewed several of the tech docs
> > for poolmon and it appears that this finding a memory leak is pretty
> > involved. I plan to get poolmon running and evaluate whether or not
> > i'm up to the task.
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> > Marc
> >
> > "John John" wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, it runs in the Command Console, what we commonly refer to as a
> >> the Command Prompt.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> Wheresmymemory wrote:
> >>> John,
> >>> Poolmon requires I access Start/Settings/Control Panel/Console. I
> >>> don't have Console in my Control Panel. Can I use the Windows 2000
> >>> method, Start/Run/cmd/properties?
> >>>
> >>> "John John" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Wheresmymemory wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> If let my computer run for about 3 days my memory usuage goes
> >>>>> from 300-400Mb at start up (as per Task manager) to over 2 Gb. I
> >>>>> think I've seen it as high as 2.8 but the suystem alerts me at
> >>>>> around 2.0. Adding up the mem usuage in TM processes is less than
> >>>>> the Qty recorded in TM performance. I down loaded a page file
> >>>>> size program and get the following at startup:
> >>>>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 76
> >>>>> Session Peak Usuage: 76
> >>>>> Current Pagefile Size: 1536
> >>>>> After several days:
> >>>>> Current Pagefile Usuage: 1590
> >>>>> Session Peak Usuage: 1590
> >>>>> Current Pagefile Size: 1714
> >>>>> It has not always done this and I'm not runnig any new programs.
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Using Performance Monitor to Identify a Pool Leak
> >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130926/
> >>>>
> >>>> How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot
> >>>> Kernel Mode Memory Leaks
> >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415
> >>>>
> >>>> http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?q=poolmon&qsc0=0&SearchBtn0=S...ch&FORM
> >>>> http://www.delmar.edu/Courses/ITSY2400/eBooks/WinXP(PerformanceTuning).pdf
> >>>>
> >>>> John
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Memory Drain-Running out of virtual memory with 2Gb fo Ram