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M.I.5¾

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:56 pm
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"PD43" <pauld1943.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8s48s3lqgcr29ujtp10njtgipnq1nitloh@4ax.com...
> "M.I.5¾" <no.one.TakeThisOut@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>It has frequently been demonstrated that if you connect a PC to the
>>internet
>>without a virus checker then the longest it is likely to last before a
>>virus
>>invades is around 15 minutes.
>
> Whatta bunch of bullshit.
>

I can only assume that you believe that the only way malware can get to your
machine is if you visit a web site that carries that malware (that is
certainly the vein of your postings). Believe me, sunshine, that just ain't
the case. Although much malware does work that way, an equal or larger
number of species does not. These things can propagate themselves without
any help or assistance from you or I.

A few years ago we had the dubious privilege of watching a self replicating
worm spreading around our network of PCs without any of them looking at
anything on the internet or intranet. It might have been difficult to keep
up except that it actually slowed down probably due to all the network
traffic each copy was generating looking for new uninfected machines to
transfer itself to. It took a couple of hours to do the whole network of
several thousand machines, but it's probably accurate to say that the
infection also spread to other machines and networks conected to the
planetary network.

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PD43

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:56 pm
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"M.I.5¾" <no.one RemoveThis @no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"PD43" <pauld1943 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:8s48s3lqgcr29ujtp10njtgipnq1nitloh@4ax.com...
>> "M.I.5¾" <no.one RemoveThis @no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It has frequently been demonstrated that if you connect a PC to the
>>>internet
>>>without a virus checker then the longest it is likely to last before a
>>>virus
>>>invades is around 15 minutes.
>>
>> Whatta bunch of bullshit.
>>
>
>I can only assume that you believe that the only way malware can get to your
>machine is if you visit a web site that carries that malware (that is
>certainly the vein of your postings). Believe me, sunshine, that just ain't
>the case. Although much malware does work that way, an equal or larger
>number of species does not. These things can propagate themselves without
>any help or assistance from you or I.

You've taken it from "virus" to "malware". Fine. I'll read on.
>
>A few years ago we had the dubious privilege of watching a self replicating
>worm spreading around our network of PCs without any of them looking at
>anything on the internet or intranet.

I'm not on a network, bucko.

> It might have been difficult to keep
>up except that it actually slowed down probably due to all the network
>traffic each copy was generating looking for new uninfected machines to
>transfer itself to. It took a couple of hours to do the whole network of
>several thousand machines, but it's probably accurate to say that the
>infection also spread to other machines and networks conected to the
>planetary network.

You're assertion that a "virus" (which you now correctly call a
"worm") can enter my system within 15 minutes of starting - if I don't
have a virus checker operating - is still utter bullshit.

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Lou

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Since: Feb 22, 2008
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:43 pm
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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lou wrote:
>> Does anyone know what the above Subject phrase is all about?
>> It appears when I access the Internet at the end of the page name.
>> For instance: The top line of my home page reads "(My ISP) Start
>> Page - MonaRonaDona"
>> It continues to appear on all pages that I access.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Somebody added it to your Titlebar - likely through registry/group
>> policy.
>> Look in your registry:
>>
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main
>> "Window Title"=
>
> Lou wrote:
>> Many thanks. Title removed.
>> Was it a virus that placed it on my computer?
>
> Virus installed applicatioon, malware. I should have stated,
> "Somebody/something added it to your Titlebar - likely through
> registry/group policy."
>
> Most of the buzz on it points to some software called, "Unigray
> Antivirus". Did you install that lately?
>
> Have you rebooted and made sure the title does not get 'put back'?
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
I just now did that and Mona etc. is back.
I went to regedit again and Mona etc. was listed as the Window Title. I
deleted that name and added my own.
I rebooted my computer and Mona etc. was back.
I tried without success to "save" the registry after I had made the change.
Any further help would be greatly appreciated.
Lou
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jeese45

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Since: Feb 26, 2008
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:27 pm
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MonaRonaDona is a virus which closed my programs & had an annoying pop
up over the taskbar. I tried 5 different Anti-spyware & antiviruses but
none worked. Finally it was Unigray Antivirus ('Unigray Antivirus:
Perfect security solution for professional and home users'
(http://www.unigray.com)) that provided me relief from MonaRonaDona.


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PD43

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:09 pm
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"Lou" <louisr.TakeThisOut@toast.net> wrote:

>I just now did that and Mona etc. is back.
>I went to regedit again and Mona etc. was listed as the Window Title. I
>deleted that name and added my own.
>I rebooted my computer and Mona etc. was back.
>I tried without success to "save" the registry after I had made the change.
>Any further help would be greatly appreciated.

Do you have anything running that is supposed to keep you or anyone
else from messing with Explorer's settings???

Like any malware blocker or anti virus program that has a "watch"
function that continuously monitors your system??
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M.I.5¾

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:50 am
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"PD43" <pauld1943.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "M.I.5¾" <no.one.DeleteThis@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"PD43" <pauld1943.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:8s48s3lqgcr29ujtp10njtgipnq1nitloh@4ax.com...
>>> "M.I.5¾" <no.one.DeleteThis@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It has frequently been demonstrated that if you connect a PC to the
>>>>internet
>>>>without a virus checker then the longest it is likely to last before a
>>>>virus
>>>>invades is around 15 minutes.
>>>
>>> Whatta bunch of bullshit.
>>>
>>
>>I can only assume that you believe that the only way malware can get to
>>your
>>machine is if you visit a web site that carries that malware (that is
>>certainly the vein of your postings). Believe me, sunshine, that just
>>ain't
>>the case. Although much malware does work that way, an equal or larger
>>number of species does not. These things can propagate themselves without
>>any help or assistance from you or I.
>
> You've taken it from "virus" to "malware". Fine. I'll read on.

Malware is a superset of virus.

>>
>>A few years ago we had the dubious privilege of watching a self
>>replicating
>>worm spreading around our network of PCs without any of them looking at
>>anything on the internet or intranet.
>
> I'm not on a network, bucko.
>

You said that you surf the internet. The internet is a very large network.
Ergo, you *are* on a network.

>> It might have been difficult to keep
>>up except that it actually slowed down probably due to all the network
>>traffic each copy was generating looking for new uninfected machines to
>>transfer itself to. It took a couple of hours to do the whole network of
>>several thousand machines, but it's probably accurate to say that the
>>infection also spread to other machines and networks conected to the
>>planetary network.
>
> You're assertion that a "virus" (which you now correctly call a
> "worm") can enter my system within 15 minutes of starting - if I don't
> have a virus checker operating - is still utter bullshit.

Please yourself sunshine.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:50 am
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PD43 wrote:

>
> You're assertion that a "virus" (which you now correctly call a
> "worm") can enter my system within 15 minutes of starting - if I don't
> have a virus checker operating - is still utter bullshit.

WRONG. Look up about the Blaster Worm (for one example). This is why XP
SP2 has the firewall turned ON by default...prior to that it was turned
OFF by default, and I have personal experience of an un-protected
machine being infected in TWENTY SECONDS after having connected to the
internet with no protection.
Look it up, it's well documented.
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