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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:06 pm
Post subject: SP3 Update Query
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Sorry to bug, but I had held off on downloading this as I had heard there
were some issues with it - is it safe to D/L now ? I did read where if I
have both Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit & Remote Desktop Connection
(RDP) 6.0 MUI pack (Update 925877 for Windows XP) to Remove them. I am
checking in ControlPanel>Add/Remove>ShowUpdates - is this the right place ?
As always, much thanks
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:14 pm
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Dallas wrote:
> Sorry to bug, but I had held off on downloading this as I had heard
> there were some issues with it - is it safe to D/L now ? I did read
> where if I have both Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit & Remote
> Desktop Connection (RDP) 6.0 MUI pack (Update 925877 for Windows
> XP) to Remove them. I am checking in
> ControlPanel>Add/Remove>ShowUpdates - is this the right place ?
> As always, much thanks
Why'd you repost?
*shrug*
Same answer I just gave then. 
Did you manually install the two items?
If so - then yes - you are looking in the correct place.
Service Pack 3 for Windows XP has not changed since it was released. If it
does change (like SP1 did) it would likely become SP3a or something similar
(as SP1 did.) I would gather that if it has not changed by now - it will
not be changing.
Like it or not - Windows XP SP3 is something that you probably should
install if...
- You are currently running Windows XP (32bit).
- You care about keeping your machine current and running its best.
- You wish to continue running Windows XP for some indeterminate time into
the future.
- You want to free support if you have any trouble installing it (SP3 that
is.)
Service Pack 3 is mostly all of the updates released after SP2 and until the
release of SP3. You may think to yourself that you have been keeping your
PC updated - so you probably have all those updates - fact is, you'd be
incorrect. You may have all the publically released ones, but SP3 contains
1179 previously released updates - guaranteed you do not have them all
installed without it.
Most of the issues people have had with SP3 have to do with their particular
configuration or a problem caused by a third party change/mis-configuration
on their system - and almost all have a relatively simple fix.
Before starting, know where you can get help:
A place to get FREE support for SP3 installation issues *from Microsoft*
until April 2009...
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131
Other than "Automatic Updates" or the Windows Update web page - how can you
get SP3?
Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb...88-8c50
Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for
IT Professionals and Developers (works just as well for you.)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B33B5A8-5E76...1F-BE08
Do a little reading - to ensure you are ready...
WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3...ad-all-
Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
Release Notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e...7aa8c63
Key things to note:
Internet Explorer:
"If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta
version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP
SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3,
uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
"If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center
Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To
avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If
this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows
XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
Did all that and have some issues you believe might be related to SP3?
Check these out:
It seems some people are unable to get further updates after installing
SP3... Seems some have experienced a symptom similar to doing a repair
installation on Windows XP - and the same fix seems to work for them for
that...
Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
installation: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
Some people experience an "endless reboot" issue...
Workarounds:
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
[NB: The above has been updated many times and now includes "a small tool
that will detect the IntelPPM problem and mitigate it before installing
[WinXP SP3]."
1. Boot into Safe Mode and rename INTELPMM.SYS to INTELPMM.OLD.
2. After booting into Safe Mode:
Start --> Run --> (copy/paste)
sc config intelppm start= disabled
--> OK --> Reboot into normal (Windows) mode.
Other references include:
1. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=187790#p187790
2.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
3. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/windows_xp_sp3_reboots_crashes/
4.
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasi...rticleI
5. You receive a "Stop 0x0000007E" error message after you upgrade to
Windows XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3 on a
non-Intel-processor-based computer (Revised 06 May-0  :
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888372
Some people have gotten an "Access Denied" message when trying to install
SP3... I suggest going straigh to Method 3 of this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
Beyond that - some simple maintenance might be needed - like installing the
latest hardware drivers from your hardware vendors...
Good luck to you! You shouldn't need it, however, with just a little
planning.
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Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:14 pm
Post subject: Re: SP3 Update Query [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks again Shenan & I don't recall if I installed those 2 Updates, but I
did go thru the Update History & didn't find them & will now install SP3 as
I liked all you had to say, per the reasons you gave.
Thanks & have a good weekend!
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Dallas.....
Dell P 4, 3GHz, 512 MB DDR SDRAM, 160 GB, Win XP Home
16X DVD-ROM & ,6X DVD+/RW, IE7, OE6, DSL, via AT&T
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
> Dallas wrote:
>> Sorry to bug, but I had held off on downloading this as I had heard
>> there were some issues with it - is it safe to D/L now ? I did read
>> where if I have both Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit & Remote
>> Desktop Connection (RDP) 6.0 MUI pack (Update 925877 for Windows
>> XP) to Remove them. I am checking in
>> ControlPanel>Add/Remove>ShowUpdates - is this the right place ?
>> As always, much thanks
>
> Why'd you repost?
> *shrug*
>
> Same answer I just gave then.
>
> Did you manually install the two items?
> If so - then yes - you are looking in the correct place.
>
> Service Pack 3 for Windows XP has not changed since it was released. If
> it
> does change (like SP1 did) it would likely become SP3a or something
> similar
> (as SP1 did.) I would gather that if it has not changed by now - it will
> not be changing.
>
> Like it or not - Windows XP SP3 is something that you probably should
> install if...
>
> - You are currently running Windows XP (32bit).
> - You care about keeping your machine current and running its best.
> - You wish to continue running Windows XP for some indeterminate time into
> the future.
> - You want to free support if you have any trouble installing it (SP3 that
> is.)
>
> Service Pack 3 is mostly all of the updates released after SP2 and until
> the
> release of SP3. You may think to yourself that you have been keeping your
> PC updated - so you probably have all those updates - fact is, you'd be
> incorrect. You may have all the publically released ones, but SP3
> contains
> 1179 previously released updates - guaranteed you do not have them all
> installed without it.
>
> Most of the issues people have had with SP3 have to do with their
> particular
> configuration or a problem caused by a third party
> change/mis-configuration
> on their system - and almost all have a relatively simple fix.
>
> Before starting, know where you can get help:
>
> A place to get FREE support for SP3 installation issues *from Microsoft*
> until April 2009...
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>
> Other than "Automatic Updates" or the Windows Update web page - how can
> you
> get SP3?
>
> Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb...88-8c50
>
> Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for
> IT Professionals and Developers (works just as well for you.)
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B33B5A8-5E76...1F-BE08
>
>
> Do a little reading - to ensure you are ready...
> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3...ad-all-
>
> Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
>
> Release Notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e...7aa8c63
>
> Key things to note:
> Internet Explorer:
> "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
> Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
> Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta
> version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows
> XP
> SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP
> SP3,
> uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
>
> Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
> "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media
> Center
> Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction.
> To
> avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If
> this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows
> XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
>
>
> Did all that and have some issues you believe might be related to SP3?
> Check these out:
>
> It seems some people are unable to get further updates after installing
> SP3... Seems some have experienced a symptom similar to doing a repair
> installation on Windows XP - and the same fix seems to work for them for
> that...
>
> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
> Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
> installation: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
>
> Some people experience an "endless reboot" issue...
>
> Workarounds:
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
> [NB: The above has been updated many times and now includes "a small tool
> that will detect the IntelPPM problem and mitigate it before installing
> [WinXP SP3]."
>
> 1. Boot into Safe Mode and rename INTELPMM.SYS to INTELPMM.OLD.
> 2. After booting into Safe Mode:
> Start --> Run --> (copy/paste)
> sc config intelppm start= disabled
> --> OK --> Reboot into normal (Windows) mode.
>
> Other references include:
> 1. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=187790#p187790
> 2.
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
> 3. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/windows_xp_sp3_reboots_crashes/
> 4.
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasi...rticleI
> 5. You receive a "Stop 0x0000007E" error message after you upgrade to
> Windows XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3 on a
> non-Intel-processor-based computer (Revised 06 May-0:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888372
>
> Some people have gotten an "Access Denied" message when trying to install
> SP3... I suggest going straigh to Method 3 of this article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
>
> Beyond that - some simple maintenance might be needed - like installing
> the
> latest hardware drivers from your hardware vendors...
>
> Good luck to you! You shouldn't need it, however, with just a little
> planning.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >> Stay informed about: SP3 Update Query |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:18 am
Post subject: Re: SP3 Update Query [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Dallas said this on 1/2/2009 10:08 PM:
> Thanks again Shenan & I don't recall if I installed those 2 Updates, but I
> did go thru the Update History & didn't find them & will now install SP3 as
> I liked all you had to say, per the reasons you gave.
>
> Thanks & have a good weekend!
>
If you really suspect you will have issues with Sp3, then a good image
backup of your hard drive will make a recovery quite simple.
Acronis True Image Home has a 15 day trial at last checking, and this
program and/or Norton Ghost, along with a freeware program (can't come
up with the name) all will do basically the same thing.
I use ATI. It can backup (image) your entire drive to an external or
2nd drive (not the same one, that would be stupid) and then if SP3
causes an issue you simply boot up off the recovery CD the program
allows you to build and restore the image back to your C: drive and
bingo, you lost nothing.
I've used it to swap drives, repartition drives (just resize on the
reload) etc. You might investigate. Version 12 (2009) is out but I use
version 9, bought on a clearance sale for $9. Some vendors dump
products easily.
Anyway, you should have backups. >> Stay informed about: SP3 Update Query |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:18 am
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Hey Big_Al & thanks for the response, but I am still very much a neophyte &
don't think I can pull this off. That said, I do have a back up of all files
that I did(had help with) 2 months back.Swapping, Repartioning(sp?),
Acronis, sounds like a high end sneaker to me !
So since I have a current back up, can I then try the install ?
Ahh, what a way to spend your Saturday, helping the simple-minded such as I
Thanks !
--
Dallas.....
Dell P 4, 3GHz, 512 MB DDR SDRAM, 160 GB, Win XP Home
16X DVD-ROM & ,6X DVD+/RW, IE7, OE6, DSL, via AT&T
"Big_Al" wrote in message
> Dallas said this on 1/2/2009 10:08 PM:
>> Thanks again Shenan & I don't recall if I installed those 2 Updates, but
>> I did go thru the Update History & didn't find them & will now install
>> SP3 as I liked all you had to say, per the reasons you gave.
>>
>> Thanks & have a good weekend!
>>
>
> If you really suspect you will have issues with Sp3, then a good image
> backup of your hard drive will make a recovery quite simple.
> Acronis True Image Home has a 15 day trial at last checking, and this
> program and/or Norton Ghost, along with a freeware program (can't come up
> with the name) all will do basically the same thing.
> I use ATI. It can backup (image) your entire drive to an external or 2nd
> drive (not the same one, that would be stupid) and then if SP3 causes an
> issue you simply boot up off the recovery CD the program allows you to
> build and restore the image back to your C: drive and bingo, you lost
> nothing.
> I've used it to swap drives, repartition drives (just resize on the
> reload) etc. You might investigate. Version 12 (2009) is out but I use
> version 9, bought on a clearance sale for $9. Some vendors dump
> products easily.
>
> Anyway, you should have backups. >> Stay informed about: SP3 Update Query |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:02 pm
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Dallas said this on 1/3/2009 1:18 PM:
> Hey Big_Al & thanks for the response, but I am still very much a neophyte &
> don't think I can pull this off. That said, I do have a back up of all files
> that I did(had help with) 2 months back.Swapping, Repartioning(sp?),
> Acronis, sounds like a high end sneaker to me !
>
> So since I have a current back up, can I then try the install ?
>
> Ahh, what a way to spend your Saturday, helping the simple-minded such as I
>
>
> Thanks !
>
Backup good or bad is only something you can determine. But if you
feel comfortable that a complete failure of your system is recoverable
then that's all that matters. Bottom line that's the point of my
comment. Keep it in mind, ATI is a kool backup since it resets even
the most obscure setting since its basically a picture of your drive.
For now, your process is the same thing I used to do, "just copy them to
another place for backup". Always has worked, maybe not slick but it
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:02 pm
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Thanks but odds are that it will Install fine, right ?
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Dallas.....
Dell P 4, 3GHz, 512 MB DDR SDRAM, 160 GB, Win XP Home
16X DVD-ROM & ,6X DVD+/RW, IE7, OE6, DSL, via AT&T
"Big_Al" wrote in message
> Dallas said this on 1/3/2009 1:18 PM:
>> Hey Big_Al & thanks for the response, but I am still very much a neophyte
>> & don't think I can pull this off. That said, I do have a back up of all
>> files that I did(had help with) 2 months back.Swapping,
>> Repartioning(sp?), Acronis, sounds like a high end sneaker to me !
>>
>> So since I have a current back up, can I then try the install ?
>>
>> Ahh, what a way to spend your Saturday, helping the simple-minded such
>> as I
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
> Backup good or bad is only something you can determine. But if you feel
> comfortable that a complete failure of your system is recoverable then
> that's all that matters. Bottom line that's the point of my comment.
> Keep it in mind, ATI is a kool backup since it resets even the most
> obscure setting since its basically a picture of your drive. For now, your
> process is the same thing I used to do, "just copy them to another place
> for backup". Always has worked, maybe not slick but it works. >> Stay informed about: SP3 Update Query |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:17 pm
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:02:20 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
> Keep it in mind, ATI is a kool backup since it resets even ...
Just a suggestion, but I assume that by "ATI" you mean "Acronis True
Image." I had to read your message three times before I guessed that
that was what you meant. Since the name ATI is so widely used for the
maker of video cards, I strongly suggest that you don't use it as an
abbreviation for "Acronis True Image." It's very likely to confuse
people.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:28 pm
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Ken Blake, MVP said this on 1/3/2009 6:17 PM:
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:02:20 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
>
>> Keep it in mind, ATI is a kool backup since it resets even ...
>
>
> Just a suggestion, but I assume that by "ATI" you mean "Acronis True
> Image." I had to read your message three times before I guessed that
> that was what you meant. Since the name ATI is so widely used for the
> maker of video cards, I strongly suggest that you don't use it as an
> abbreviation for "Acronis True Image." It's very likely to confuse
> people.
>
I have two ATI cards.
However just for reference, the first message to Dallas I spelled it out
then abbreviated and the 2nd message just continued the abbreviation.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:28 pm
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:28:24 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
> Ken Blake, MVP said this on 1/3/2009 6:17 PM:
> > On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:02:20 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
> >
> >> Keep it in mind, ATI is a kool backup since it resets even ...
> >
> >
> > Just a suggestion, but I assume that by "ATI" you mean "Acronis True
> > Image." I had to read your message three times before I guessed that
> > that was what you meant. Since the name ATI is so widely used for the
> > maker of video cards, I strongly suggest that you don't use it as an
> > abbreviation for "Acronis True Image." It's very likely to confuse
> > people.
> >
>
> I have two ATI cards.
> However just for reference, the first message to Dallas I spelled it out
> then abbreviated and the 2nd message just continued the abbreviation.
>
> However, again I can understand the confusion. Thanks.
OK, but I saw the second message alone. If I had earlier seen the
first one, I had forgotten, and as a result *I* was confused.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:07 pm
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Ken Blake, MVP said this on 1/3/2009 8:19 PM:
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:28:24 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
>
>> Ken Blake, MVP said this on 1/3/2009 6:17 PM:
>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:02:20 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
>>>
>>>> Keep it in mind, ATI is a kool backup since it resets even ...
>>>
>>> Just a suggestion, but I assume that by "ATI" you mean "Acronis True
>>> Image." I had to read your message three times before I guessed that
>>> that was what you meant. Since the name ATI is so widely used for the
>>> maker of video cards, I strongly suggest that you don't use it as an
>>> abbreviation for "Acronis True Image." It's very likely to confuse
>>> people.
>>>
>> I have two ATI cards.
>> However just for reference, the first message to Dallas I spelled it out
>> then abbreviated and the 2nd message just continued the abbreviation.
>>
>> However, again I can understand the confusion. Thanks.
>
>
> OK, but I saw the second message alone. If I had earlier seen the
> first one, I had forgotten, and as a result *I* was confused.
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:46 am
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:07:31 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
> Ken Blake, MVP said this on 1/3/2009 8:19 PM:
> > On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:28:24 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
> >
> >> Ken Blake, MVP said this on 1/3/2009 6:17 PM:
> >>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:02:20 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Keep it in mind, ATI is a kool backup since it resets even ...
> >>>
> >>> Just a suggestion, but I assume that by "ATI" you mean "Acronis True
> >>> Image." I had to read your message three times before I guessed that
> >>> that was what you meant. Since the name ATI is so widely used for the
> >>> maker of video cards, I strongly suggest that you don't use it as an
> >>> abbreviation for "Acronis True Image." It's very likely to confuse
> >>> people.
> >>>
> >> I have two ATI cards.
> >> However just for reference, the first message to Dallas I spelled it out
> >> then abbreviated and the 2nd message just continued the abbreviation.
> >>
> >> However, again I can understand the confusion. Thanks.
> >
> >
> > OK, but I saw the second message alone. If I had earlier seen the
> > first one, I had forgotten, and as a result *I* was confused.
> >
> No argument. I'm confused.... <grin>
LOL! And glad there's no argument.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:26 pm
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right ?
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> Thanks but odds are that it will Install fine, right ?
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> Dallas.....
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> Dell P 4, 3GHz, 512 MB DDR SDRAM, 160 GB, Win XP Home
> 16X DVD-ROM & ,6X DVD+/RW, IE7, OE6, DSL, via AT&T
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> "Big_Al" wrote in message
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>> Dallas said this on 1/3/2009 1:18 PM:
>>> Hey Big_Al & thanks for the response, but I am still very much a
>>> neophyte & don't think I can pull this off. That said, I do have a back
>>> up of all files that I did(had help with) 2 months back.Swapping,
>>> Repartioning(sp?), Acronis, sounds like a high end sneaker to me !
>>>
>>> So since I have a current back up, can I then try the install ?
>>>
>>> Ahh, what a way to spend your Saturday, helping the simple-minded such
>>> as I
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>>> Thanks !
>>>
>> Backup good or bad is only something you can determine. But if you feel
>> comfortable that a complete failure of your system is recoverable then
>> that's all that matters. Bottom line that's the point of my comment.
>> Keep it in mind, ATI is a kool backup since it resets even the most
>> obscure setting since its basically a picture of your drive. For now,
>> your process is the same thing I used to do, "just copy them to another
>> place for backup". Always has worked, maybe not slick but it works.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:16 pm
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Dallas wrote:
> Thanks but odds are that it will Install fine, right ?
Dallas wrote:
> right ?
Repost...
(read the last lines for the answer to your latest query...)
Like it or not - Windows XP SP3 is something that you probably should
install if...
- You are currently running Windows XP (32bit).
- You care about keeping your machine current and running its best.
- You wish to continue running Windows XP for some indeterminate time into
the future.
- You want to free support if you have any trouble installing it (SP3 that
is.)
Service Pack 3 is mostly all of the updates released after SP2 and until the
release of SP3. You may think to yourself that you have been keeping your
PC updated - so you probably have all those updates - fact is, you'd be
incorrect. You may have all the publically released ones, but SP3 contains
1179 previously released updates - guaranteed you do not have them all
installed without it.
Most of the issues people have had with SP3 have to do with their particular
configuration or a problem caused by a third party change/mis-configuration
on their system - and almost all have a relatively simple fix.
Before starting, know where you can get help:
A place to get FREE support for SP3 installation issues *from Microsoft*
until April 2009...
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131
Other than "Automatic Updates" or the Windows Update web page - how can you
get SP3?
Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb...88-8c50
Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for
IT Professionals and Developers (works just as well for you.)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B33B5A8-5E76...1F-BE08
Do a little reading - to ensure you are ready...
WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3...ad-all-
Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
Release Notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e...7aa8c63
Key things to note:
Internet Explorer:
"If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta
version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP
SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3,
uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
"If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center
Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To
avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If
this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows
XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
Did all that and have some issues you believe might be related to SP3?
Check these out:
It seems some people are unable to get further updates after installing
SP3... Seems some have experienced a symptom similar to doing a repair
installation on Windows XP - and the same fix seems to work for them for
that...
Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
installation: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
Some people experience an "endless reboot" issue...
Workarounds:
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
[NB: The above has been updated many times and now includes "a small tool
that will detect the IntelPPM problem and mitigate it before installing
[WinXP SP3]."
1. Boot into Safe Mode and rename INTELPMM.SYS to INTELPMM.OLD.
2. After booting into Safe Mode:
Start --> Run --> (copy/paste)
sc config intelppm start= disabled
--> OK --> Reboot into normal (Windows) mode.
Other references include:
1. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=187790#p187790
2.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-am...ased-co
3. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/windows_xp_sp3_reboots_crashes/
4.
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasi...rticleI
5. You receive a "Stop 0x0000007E" error message after you upgrade to
Windows XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3 on a
non-Intel-processor-based computer (Revised 06 May-0 :
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888372
Some people have gotten an "Access Denied" message when trying to install
SP3... I suggest going straigh to Method 3 of this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
Beyond that - some simple maintenance might be needed - like installing the
latest hardware drivers from your hardware vendors...
Good luck to you! You shouldn't need it, however, with just a little
planning.
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MS-MVP
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