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Bobby2

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:15 am
Post subject: Sudden wireless network problem
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My home wireless network has worked flawlessly for months but one of my PCs
suddenly refused to work last night.

I have a BT Broadband connection (1Mb). This connection works OK since the
other PCs in my home connect OK (I am typing this from my wireless laptop).

My hardware is: BT Voyager wireless router/modem. Belkin wireless network
adapter. All running at 801g (54Mbit). I let my Belkin software manage the
connection (not Windows). I'm running Windows XP SP2.

Last night my Internet connection suddently went down. The PC was previously
working fine (and connecting to the Internet without a problem). The icon in
the system tray was reporting "limited connectivity" but I had something
else to do and ignored the problem.

But this morning the same problem arose. This time I appeared to have full
(90%) connectivity according to the icon in the system tray. So I expected
to connect to the Net without problems - but I couldn't (it timed-out).
Worse, I can't connect to my router's home page. But my PC reports that my
wireless adaptor is working OK and that I have connectivity (ranging from
90-95%). But nothing works.

Sometimes the system tray reports "limited connectivity" but if I disable
and enable the connection it goes back to (almost) full connectivity. But I
still can't "see" my wireless router (i.e. it's admin web page).

I'm at a loss. Help!

Cheers.

Bobby

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Marcin Gaszewski

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:15 am
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Bobby wrote:
> My home wireless network has worked flawlessly for months but one of my PCs
> suddenly refused to work last night.
>
> I have a BT Broadband connection (1Mb). This connection works OK since the
> other PCs in my home connect OK (I am typing this from my wireless laptop).
>
> My hardware is: BT Voyager wireless router/modem. Belkin wireless network
> adapter. All running at 801g (54Mbit). I let my Belkin software manage the
> connection (not Windows). I'm running Windows XP SP2.
>
> Last night my Internet connection suddently went down. The PC was previously
> working fine (and connecting to the Internet without a problem). The icon in
> the system tray was reporting "limited connectivity" but I had something
> else to do and ignored the problem.
>
> But this morning the same problem arose. This time I appeared to have full
> (90%) connectivity according to the icon in the system tray. So I expected
> to connect to the Net without problems - but I couldn't (it timed-out).
> Worse, I can't connect to my router's home page. But my PC reports that my
> wireless adaptor is working OK and that I have connectivity (ranging from
> 90-95%). But nothing works.
>
> Sometimes the system tray reports "limited connectivity" but if I disable
> and enable the connection it goes back to (almost) full connectivity. But I
> still can't "see" my wireless router (i.e. it's admin web page).
>
> I'm at a loss. Help!
>
> Cheers.
>
> Bobby
>
>
Firstly try to check your TCP/IP settings. Do you use DHCP ?
try:
start/run/cmd
ipconfig

If everything looking alright try to check your WEP and SNR.

If still isn't working I could propose you to check your firewalls,
antyvir softwere at your PC.


Best Regards
Marcin Gaszewski

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Kerry Brown

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:11 am
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"Bobby" wrote in message

> My home wireless network has worked flawlessly for months but one of my
> PCs suddenly refused to work last night.
>
> I have a BT Broadband connection (1Mb). This connection works OK since the
> other PCs in my home connect OK (I am typing this from my wireless
> laptop).
>
> My hardware is: BT Voyager wireless router/modem. Belkin wireless network
> adapter. All running at 801g (54Mbit). I let my Belkin software manage the
> connection (not Windows). I'm running Windows XP SP2.
>
> Last night my Internet connection suddently went down. The PC was
> previously working fine (and connecting to the Internet without a
> problem). The icon in the system tray was reporting "limited connectivity"
> but I had something else to do and ignored the problem.
>
> But this morning the same problem arose. This time I appeared to have full
> (90%) connectivity according to the icon in the system tray. So I expected
> to connect to the Net without problems - but I couldn't (it timed-out).
> Worse, I can't connect to my router's home page. But my PC reports that my
> wireless adaptor is working OK and that I have connectivity (ranging from
> 90-95%). But nothing works.
>
> Sometimes the system tray reports "limited connectivity" but if I disable
> and enable the connection it goes back to (almost) full connectivity. But
> I still can't "see" my wireless router (i.e. it's admin web page).
>
> I'm at a loss. Help!
>
> Cheers.
>
> Bobby
>

It may be something simple. Have any neighbours recently added a wireless
network? Have you installed anything that may be interfering? i.e. cordless
phone, cheap fan that generates a lot of r/f noise, fluorescent desk lamp.
etc.

Kerry
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:15 am
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In article , Bobby says...
> My home wireless network has worked flawlessly for months but one of my PCs
> suddenly refused to work last night.
>
> I have a BT Broadband connection (1Mb). This connection works OK since the
> other PCs in my home connect OK (I am typing this from my wireless laptop).
>
> My hardware is: BT Voyager wireless router/modem. Belkin wireless network
> adapter. All running at 801g (54Mbit). I let my Belkin software manage the
> connection (not Windows). I'm running Windows XP SP2.
>
> Last night my Internet connection suddently went down. The PC was previously
> working fine (and connecting to the Internet without a problem). The icon in
> the system tray was reporting "limited connectivity" but I had something
> else to do and ignored the problem.
>
> But this morning the same problem arose. This time I appeared to have full
> (90%) connectivity according to the icon in the system tray. So I expected
> to connect to the Net without problems - but I couldn't (it timed-out).
> Worse, I can't connect to my router's home page. But my PC reports that my
> wireless adaptor is working OK and that I have connectivity (ranging from
> 90-95%). But nothing works.
>
> Sometimes the system tray reports "limited connectivity" but if I disable
> and enable the connection it goes back to (almost) full connectivity. But I
> still can't "see" my wireless router (i.e. it's admin web page).
>
If you're using MAC address filtering, check that.


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Brian

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:58 am
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Did you reboot the router?
"Bobby" wrote in message

> My home wireless network has worked flawlessly for months but one of my
> PCs suddenly refused to work last night.
>
> I have a BT Broadband connection (1Mb). This connection works OK since the
> other PCs in my home connect OK (I am typing this from my wireless
> laptop).
>
> My hardware is: BT Voyager wireless router/modem. Belkin wireless network
> adapter. All running at 801g (54Mbit). I let my Belkin software manage the
> connection (not Windows). I'm running Windows XP SP2.
>
> Last night my Internet connection suddently went down. The PC was
> previously working fine (and connecting to the Internet without a
> problem). The icon in the system tray was reporting "limited connectivity"
> but I had something else to do and ignored the problem.
>
> But this morning the same problem arose. This time I appeared to have full
> (90%) connectivity according to the icon in the system tray. So I expected
> to connect to the Net without problems - but I couldn't (it timed-out).
> Worse, I can't connect to my router's home page. But my PC reports that my
> wireless adaptor is working OK and that I have connectivity (ranging from
> 90-95%). But nothing works.
>
> Sometimes the system tray reports "limited connectivity" but if I disable
> and enable the connection it goes back to (almost) full connectivity. But
> I still can't "see" my wireless router (i.e. it's admin web page).
>
> I'm at a loss. Help!
>
> Cheers.
>
> Bobby
>
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Phil Thompson

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:15 am
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 07:32:30 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
wrote:

>As it is an all-in-one unit, I would disconnect the machines from it during
>this operation.

sure. For info, in the UK separate ethernet ADSL modems are not very
common, and are usually a nuisance as the default DSL service is PPPoA
and not PPPoE.

Cheers,

Phil
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Sparda




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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:34 am
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"ethernet ADSL modems"

You mean a router? Like the one I have? (I live in England)

"and are usually a nuisance as the default DSL service is PPPoA and not PPPoE."

You sure about that? My BT connection work with both PPPoE and PPPoA.
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Tiscali Tim

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:15 pm
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bobby wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> The problem PC is a desktop system (not a laptop).
>
> The network also includes two laptops (including the one I'm typing
> this on) and another desktop PC. All connect wirelessly. All work
> perfectly.
>
> My problem PC was working perfectly. I did not make any network
> changes. I am reluctant to stop messing about with TCP/IP settings.
>
> My modem and router is a combined unit. I switched it off last night
> but the problem persisted this morning when I tried again. I presume
> switching it off is the same as a reboot. The lights on the
> modem/router report no problems whatsoever and every other PC/laptop
> works OK.
>
> I can't connect to my modem/router web management page so something
> fundamental must be going wrong between my PC and the router.
>
> I am going to try to re-install my wireless network adaptor software.
> Then I will replace my wireless adaptor to see if that helps.
>
> Bobby
>

Have you re-booted the problem PC? Does that help?

If the PC *appears* to be connected to the PC but can't talk to it, some of
the PCs wireless settings may have got corrupted somehow.

What level of wireless security are you using - encryption, MAC address
filtering, hiding SSID, etc.? If using encryption, make sure that the type
and parameters are set up on the PC exactly as on the router. If using MAC
address filtering, make sure that the PC's wireless card's MAC address is in
the router's Permitted table.

Can you ping the router from the PC?

You can *check* the PC's TCP/IP settings without having to mess with/change
them. When you type "ipconfig /all" at the Command prompt, does it display
an IP address in the same range as that of the router, and with the same
subnet mask?

[If you don't know how to interpret what it is telling you, copy the output
from ipconfig /all and paste it into this thread - preferably with the
equivalent output from a PC which *does* work].
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:15 pm
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"Tiscali Tim" wrote in message

timothy dear why do you call yourself tiscali timmy when you dont even use
piscalli Smile
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:15 pm
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:

> "Tiscali Tim" wrote in message
>
> timothy dear why do you call yourself tiscali timmy when you dont
> even use piscalli Smile

Perhaps for the same reason as you call yourself ?

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:45 pm
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Try this:

http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html


"Kerry Brown" wrote in message

> "Bobby" wrote in message
>
>> My home wireless network has worked flawlessly for months but one of my
>> PCs suddenly refused to work last night.
>>
>> I have a BT Broadband connection (1Mb). This connection works OK since
>> the other PCs in my home connect OK (I am typing this from my wireless
>> laptop).
>>
>> My hardware is: BT Voyager wireless router/modem. Belkin wireless network
>> adapter. All running at 801g (54Mbit). I let my Belkin software manage
>> the connection (not Windows). I'm running Windows XP SP2.
>>
>> Last night my Internet connection suddently went down. The PC was
>> previously working fine (and connecting to the Internet without a
>> problem). The icon in the system tray was reporting "limited
>> connectivity" but I had something else to do and ignored the problem.
>>
>> But this morning the same problem arose. This time I appeared to have
>> full (90%) connectivity according to the icon in the system tray. So I
>> expected to connect to the Net without problems - but I couldn't (it
>> timed-out). Worse, I can't connect to my router's home page. But my PC
>> reports that my wireless adaptor is working OK and that I have
>> connectivity (ranging from 90-95%). But nothing works.
>>
>> Sometimes the system tray reports "limited connectivity" but if I disable
>> and enable the connection it goes back to (almost) full connectivity. But
>> I still can't "see" my wireless router (i.e. it's admin web page).
>>
>> I'm at a loss. Help!
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Bobby
>>
>
> It may be something simple. Have any neighbours recently added a wireless
> network? Have you installed anything that may be interfering? i.e.
> cordless phone, cheap fan that generates a lot of r/f noise, fluorescent
> desk lamp. etc.
>
> Kerry
>
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:15 am
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On 13 Aug 2005 19:35:40 -0400, Sparda
wrote:

>"ethernet ADSL modems"
>You mean a router? Like the one I have? (I live in England)

no, I mean an ADSL modem using ethernet to connect to a single device.

>"and are usually a nuisance as the default DSL service is PPPoA and
>not PPPoE."
>You sure about that? My BT connection work with both PPPoE and PPPoA.

yes I am sure, the default is PPPoA, it is the one BT recommend, they
also added support for PPPoE which AOL use for one. I don't believe
all ISPs support PPPoE (it adds overhead and an extra client).

Phil
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:15 am
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On 13 Aug 2005, Sparda wrote:

(posting reformatted - there's little need to quote a whole post,
including signature, and then duplicate text, as you can insert
your own comments quite easily with most news services...)

>"Phil" wrote:
> > On 13 Aug 2005, "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

> > in the UK separate ethernet ADSL modems are not very common,
>
>You mean a router? Like the one I have? (I live in England)
>
No, I think Phil means what he said.... there are a few non-router
units with an ethernet interface, not USB. For example there's the
D-Link DSL-300T (from memory).

> > usually a nuisance as the default DSL service is PPPoA and not PPPoE.
>
>You sure about that? My BT connection work with both PPPoE and PPPoA.

I'm interested if that is even possible, given a problem a neighbour
(on AOL) has been having. It might be related, or coincidence, that
everything fell apart after a speed regrade... (and no, seems not a
speed/stability/attenuation/SNR problem after tests with my router).


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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:15 am
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On 13 Aug 2005 19:35:40 -0400, Sparda
wrote:


>
>You sure about that? My BT connection work with both PPPoE and PPPoA.

You sure about that?

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:15 am
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Thanks for all the suggestions.

The prize goes to the people who suggested that my network settings had got
corrupted.

But no-one got the solution -- restoring the PC using system restore.
Although I guess the WinSock fix would probably have worked too.

I think that the problem was caused by a Windows update. I think that I
switched off my PC during an update - Windows reported this and said that I
could continue the shutdown but I think that my problems arose after this.

Anyway, system restore solved my problem. In fact, system restore solves
every (software) problem in my experience.

Thanks again to everyone who contributed to this thread.

Bobby

"Ed." <esmithoh(at)zoominternet.net> wrote in message

> Try this:
>
> http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote in message
>
>> "Bobby" wrote in message
>>
>>> My home wireless network has worked flawlessly for months but one of my
>>> PCs suddenly refused to work last night.
>>>
>>> I have a BT Broadband connection (1Mb). This connection works OK since
>>> the other PCs in my home connect OK (I am typing this from my wireless
>>> laptop).
>>>
>>> My hardware is: BT Voyager wireless router/modem. Belkin wireless
>>> network adapter. All running at 801g (54Mbit). I let my Belkin software
>>> manage the connection (not Windows). I'm running Windows XP SP2.
>>>
>>> Last night my Internet connection suddently went down. The PC was
>>> previously working fine (and connecting to the Internet without a
>>> problem). The icon in the system tray was reporting "limited
>>> connectivity" but I had something else to do and ignored the problem.
>>>
>>> But this morning the same problem arose. This time I appeared to have
>>> full (90%) connectivity according to the icon in the system tray. So I
>>> expected to connect to the Net without problems - but I couldn't (it
>>> timed-out). Worse, I can't connect to my router's home page. But my PC
>>> reports that my wireless adaptor is working OK and that I have
>>> connectivity (ranging from 90-95%). But nothing works.
>>>
>>> Sometimes the system tray reports "limited connectivity" but if I
>>> disable and enable the connection it goes back to (almost) full
>>> connectivity. But I still can't "see" my wireless router (i.e. it's
>>> admin web page).
>>>
>>> I'm at a loss. Help!
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>>
>>
>> It may be something simple. Have any neighbours recently added a wireless
>> network? Have you installed anything that may be interfering? i.e.
>> cordless phone, cheap fan that generates a lot of r/f noise, fluorescent
>> desk lamp. etc.
>>
>> Kerry
>>
>>
>
>
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