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Peter

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: Xp oem image activation Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsxp>general (more info?)

Hello ! Am I right in saying that restoring an image of a clean XP oem installation onto a clean drive will not require activation on the same computer ? If not, will it require re-activation after 120 days when xp does an new audit ? Thank you lots. >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Peter wrote: > Hello ! > > Am I right in saying that restoring an image of a clean XP oem > installation onto a clean drive will not require activation on the same > computer ? Depends if the image was activated or not. > > If not, will it require re-activation after 120 days when xp does an new > audit ? > > Thank you lots. No such "audit". After 120 days, XP wipes the slate clean and, effectively, you could install a generic OEM on an entirely different computer and it would activate on line without any problems. If you're sick of activation and genuine advantage in all of its flavors, check out Linux Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com Advantages over XP: 1. No activation. 2. No Windows Genuine Advantage scams. 3. No need for an anti virus or firewall. A router firewall is enough. 4. No need for anti spy/ad/mal ware programs such as Spybot or AdAware. 5. The Ubuntu update updates everything on your computer, not just the operating system. 6. Thousands of programs to choose from and all are free. 7. Great support through on line forums, Usenet and IRC. 8. It's free and you can install it on as many computers as your little heart desires. Alias >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Alias wrote: > Peter wrote: >> Hello ! >> >> Am I right in saying that restoring an image of a clean XP oem >> installation onto a clean drive will not require activation on the >> same computer ? > > Depends if the image was activated or not. > >> >> If not, will it require re-activation after 120 days when xp does an >> new audit ? >> >> Thank you lots. > > No such "audit". After 120 days, XP wipes the slate clean and, > effectively, you could install a generic OEM on an entirely different > computer and it would activate on line without any problems. > > If you're sick of activation and genuine advantage in all of its > flavors, check out Linux Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com > > Advantages over XP: > > 1. No activation. > > 2. No Windows Genuine Advantage scams. > > 3. No need for an anti virus or firewall. A router firewall is enough. > > 4. No need for anti spy/ad/mal ware programs such as Spybot or > AdAware. > 5. The Ubuntu update updates everything on your computer, not just > the operating system. > > 6. Thousands of programs to choose from and all are free. > > 7. Great support through on line forums, Usenet and IRC. > > 8. It's free and you can install it on as many computers as your > little heart desires. > > > Alias Those are the pros; now how about the very real cons? You're telling a one-sided story without knowing what the OP would be trying to accomplish and steering him to a whole new learning curve. >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

Bruce Chambers

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Alias wrote: > > > No such "audit". After 120 days, XP wipes the slate clean ... Is this a deliberate mis-statement, or are trying ignorant of the actual process? > ... and, effectively, you could install a generic OEM on an entirely different > computer and it would activate on line without any problems. > Assuming the OP has no integrity.... Dishonest spam-vertisement snipped... -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

Bruce Chambers

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Poprivet wrote: > > > Those are the pros; now how about the very real cons? You're telling a > one-sided story .... And lying in much of that. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

Peter

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Hi Alias, At least you gave me some useful info...thx! Yes I'll be trying Ubuntu. Already have a knoppix Live Cd but it's a bit too slow for me. I hope to activate XP and then make an image to avoid the B.S. of 'verifying' my ID to M$. First M$ advised to flash the bios. This stops the oem product. Then they insist on calling them and spewing out some 50 odd numbers. It's all numbers to M$. People are just numbers, and numbers are $$$. I have even been reading up on trying a crack but WHY should I ? "Alias" wrote in message news:uC0#yqvjHHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Peter wrote: >> Hello ! >> >> Am I right in saying that restoring an image of a clean XP oem* >> installation onto a clean drive will not require activation on the same >> computer ? > > Depends if the image was activated or not. >> If not, will it require re-activation after 120 days when xp does an new >> audit ? >> >> Thank you lots. > > No such "audit". After 120 days, XP wipes the slate clean and, > effectively, you could install a generic OEM on an entirely different > computer and it would activate on line without any problems. > > If you're sick of activation and genuine advantage in all of its flavors, > check out Linux Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com > > Advantages over XP: > > 1. No activation. > > 2. No Windows Genuine Advantage scams. > > 3. No need for an anti virus or firewall. A router firewall is enough. > > 4. No need for anti spy/ad/mal ware programs such as Spybot or AdAware. > > 5. The Ubuntu update updates everything on your computer, not just the > operating system. > > 6. Thousands of programs to choose from and all are free. > > 7. Great support through on line forums, Usenet and IRC. > > 8. It's free and you can install it on as many computers as your little > heart desires. > > > Alias >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

Bruce Chambers

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Peter wrote: > Hi Alias, > > At least you gave me some useful info...thx! > It won't be as useful as one might think; much of it was simply untrue. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation*

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Poprivet wrote: > Alias wrote: >> Peter wrote: >>> Hello ! >>> >>> Am I right in saying that restoring an image of a clean XP oem >>> installation onto a clean drive will not require activation on the >>> same computer ? >> Depends if the image was activated or not. >> >>> If not, will it require re-activation after 120 days when xp does an >>> new audit ? >>> >>> Thank you lots. >> No such "audit". After 120 days, XP wipes the slate clean and, >> effectively, you could install a generic OEM on an entirely different >> computer and it would activate on line without any problems. >> >> If you're sick of activation and genuine advantage in all of its >> flavors, check out Linux Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com >> >> Advantages over XP: >> >> 1. No activation. >> >> 2. No Windows Genuine Advantage scams. >> >> 3. No need for an anti virus or firewall. A router firewall is enough. >> >> 4. No need for anti spy/ad/mal ware programs such as Spybot or >> AdAware. >> 5. The Ubuntu update updates everything on your computer, not just >> the operating system. >> >> 6. Thousands of programs to choose from and all are free. >> >> 7. Great support through on line forums, Usenet and IRC. >> >> 8. It's free and you can install it on as many computers as your >> little heart desires. >> >> >> Alias > > Those are the pros; now how about the very real cons? You're telling a > one-sided story without knowing what the OP would be trying to accomplish > and steering him to a whole new learning curve. Two questions were answered, one about XP and another about an alternative to having to activate, become "genuine", etc. If you have any cons you'd like to express, by all means, feel free. If all you can do it spew "cons" about the messenger, I'm not really surprised or interested. Alias >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

Alias

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Peter wrote: > Hi Alias, > > At least you gave me some useful info...thx! You're welcome. > > Yes I'll be trying Ubuntu. Already have a knoppix Live Cd but it's a bit > too slow for me. Be sure and try Feisty Fawn 7.04. > > I hope to activate XP and then make an image to avoid the B.S. of > 'verifying' my ID to M$. That would do it. > > First M$ advised to flash the bios. This stops the oem product. Then > they insist on calling them and spewing out some 50 odd numbers. It's > all numbers to M$. People are just numbers, and numbers are $$$. Activation, WGA, WGA/N, etc. is the main reason I'm learning Ubuntu. That and not having to spend so much money. I have three computers and to put Ulitmate on all of them will set me back $2,400 US Dollars. To put Ubuntu on them costs me no money and far less time. > > I have even been reading up on trying a crack but WHY should I ? Exactly. Alias > > > "Alias" wrote in message > news:uC0#yqvjHHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Peter wrote: >>> Hello ! >>> >>> Am I right in saying that restoring an image of a clean XP oem* >>> installation onto a clean drive will not require activation on the >>> same computer ? >> >> Depends if the image was activated or not. > > > > >>> If not, will it require re-activation after 120 days when xp does an >>> new audit ? >>> >>> Thank you lots. >> >> No such "audit". After 120 days, XP wipes the slate clean and, >> effectively, you could install a generic OEM on an entirely different >> computer and it would activate on line without any problems. >> >> If you're sick of activation and genuine advantage in all of its >> flavors, check out Linux Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com >> >> Advantages over XP: >> >> 1. No activation. >> >> 2. No Windows Genuine Advantage scams. >> >> 3. No need for an anti virus or firewall. A router firewall is enough. >> >> 4. No need for anti spy/ad/mal ware programs such as Spybot or AdAware. >> >> 5. The Ubuntu update updates everything on your computer, not just >> the operating system. >> >> 6. Thousands of programs to choose from and all are free. >> >> 7. Great support through on line forums, Usenet and IRC. >> >> 8. It's free and you can install it on as many computers as your >> little heart desires. >> >> >> Alias > >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bruce Chambers wrote: > Poprivet wrote: >> >> >> Those are the pros; now how about the very real cons? You're telling >> a one-sided story .... > > > > And lying in much of that. > > Really? Like what? Alias >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bruce Chambers wrote: > Alias wrote: >> >> >> No such "audit". After 120 days, XP wipes the slate clean ... > > > Is this a deliberate mis-statement, or are trying ignorant of the > actual process? No, it's true. > > >> ... and, effectively, you could install a generic OEM on an entirely >> different computer and it would activate on line without any problems. >> > > > Assuming the OP has no integrity.... Not relevant. Technically, it can be done. > > > Dishonest spam-vertisement snipped... My, get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning, Bruce? What was dishonest? Alias > > >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

Rock

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Peter" wrote > Hello ! > > Am I right in saying that restoring an image of a clean XP oem > installation onto a clean drive will not require activation on the same > computer ? > > If not, will it require re-activation after 120 days when xp does an new > audit ? Do you mean the same drive it had been on or a new drive? Depending on what other changes had been made to the system between the last time it was activated and now, imaging to a different drive could swing the balance to require activation. See this link for info on product activation and how to save the vote based on the hard drive. http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm -- Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

Bruce Chambers

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Alias wrote: > Bruce Chambers wrote: >> Alias wrote: >>> >>> >>> No such "audit". After 120 days, XP wipes the slate clean ... >> >> >> Is this a deliberate mis-statement, or are trying ignorant of the >> actual process? > > No, it's true. Nonsense. WinXP wipes no slates clean. Microsoft, however, does purge old activation information from the servers after 120 days. So now we know, you were ignorant of the true process. Try a little light reading to prevent such future mistakes: Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/ Windows Product Activation (WPA) http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Alias wrote: > >> >> >> And lying in much of that. >> >> > > Really? Like what? > They've been pointed out to you before. We understand that you've no interest in the facts. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Xp oem image activation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bruce Chambers wrote: > Alias wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> And lying in much of that. >>> >>> >> >> Really? Like what? >> > > They've been pointed out to you before. And I replied. You did not reply to my reply. > We understand that you've > no interest in the facts. Really? Like what? Alias >> Stay informed about: Xp oem image activation

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