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praetor

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Since: Feb 11, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:25 pm
Post subject: encryption query
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I have encountered a bit of a disaster - I encrypted information on my hard
drive, made a copy on a separate drive and then, after several problems,
reformatted my computer using its disks. I have re-loaded the encrypted
files, but now find I have no access to them. It is the same machine and I
havent really changed any of the settings.

Is there anything I can do to get these files back?

Any help gratefully received.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:48 pm
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praetor wrote:
> I have encountered a bit of a disaster - I encrypted information on
> my hard drive, made a copy on a separate drive and then, after
> several problems, reformatted my computer using its disks. I have
> re-loaded the encrypted files, but now find I have no access to them.
> It is the same machine and I havent really changed any of the
> settings.
>
> Is there anything I can do to get these files back?
>
> Any help gratefully received.

Unless you made the recommended recovery disk for the encryption processes,
no. The encryption codes were all re-created when you reinstalled and are
different from when it was first encrypted. If you want to spend money, I
think there are places that can do it, but I don't think it can be done with
XP or any tools available. BTDT, but ONLY once!! <g>
I'd love to be wrong, and I'll be watching the thread for a way to do it,
but I think you can kiss the data goodbye.

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AJR

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:00 pm
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Quote "Encryption is transparent to the user that encrypted the file. This
means that you do not have to manually decrypt the encrypted file before you
can use it. You can open and change the file as you normally do."

Note "...is transparent to the user that encrypted the file....". It may a
question of establishing ownership.

"praetor" <praetor RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have encountered a bit of a disaster - I encrypted information on my hard
> drive, made a copy on a separate drive and then, after several problems,
> reformatted my computer using its disks. I have re-loaded the encrypted
> files, but now find I have no access to them. It is the same machine and I
> havent really changed any of the settings.
>
> Is there anything I can do to get these files back?
>
> Any help gratefully received.
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Jupiter Jones MVP

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:32 pm
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Ownership is not enough, the original keys are also needed.
The keys can not be recreated, the only hope is to recover the original
keys.
As far as the encryption is concerned the original user does not exist.

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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"AJR" <ajrjdr DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Quote "Encryption is transparent to the user that encrypted the file. This
> means that you do not have to manually decrypt the encrypted file before
> you can use it. You can open and change the file as you normally do."
>
> Note "...is transparent to the user that encrypted the file....". It may
> a question of establishing ownership.
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Jupiter Jones MVP

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:35 pm
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You need the original keys or profile.
Can you recover either from the formatted drive?
If not, your data is is good as gone.
See the links near the bottom of this page for ways to prevent this type of
permanent data loss:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/encrypt.htm

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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"praetor" <praetor DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have encountered a bit of a disaster - I encrypted information on my hard
> drive, made a copy on a separate drive and then, after several problems,
> reformatted my computer using its disks. I have re-loaded the encrypted
> files, but now find I have no access to them. It is the same machine and I
> havent really changed any of the settings.
>
> Is there anything I can do to get these files back?
>
> Any help gratefully received.
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Jupiter Jones MVP

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:27 am
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This page is a little dated but something may help, Steps 4 - 5:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/datrec.htm

Also possibly Acronis Disk Director:
http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/diskdirectorsuite/partition...covery.

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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"praetor" <praetor RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Jupiter - doesnt sound good does it?
>
> Any articles or tips on how I might go about recovering the original keys
> or
> the profile?
>
> Would be grateful for any pointers.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> You need the original keys or profile.
>> Can you recover either from the formatted drive?
>> If not, your data is is good as gone.
>> See the links near the bottom of this page for ways to prevent this type
>> of
>> permanent data loss:
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/encrypt.htm
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "praetor" <praetor RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B2E97BAC-8C03-44A0-BCC3-AA61813276D1@microsoft.com...
>> >I have encountered a bit of a disaster - I encrypted information on my
>> >hard
>> > drive, made a copy on a separate drive and then, after several
>> > problems,
>> > reformatted my computer using its disks. I have re-loaded the encrypted
>> > files, but now find I have no access to them. It is the same machine
>> > and I
>> > havent really changed any of the settings.
>> >
>> > Is there anything I can do to get these files back?
>> >
>> > Any help gratefully received.
>>
>>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:20 pm
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Thanks Jupiter - I ran the programme which scanned for older files - however,
I do not know what I am looking for. Can you direct me along a useful path -
sorry for the additional messages.



"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> This page is a little dated but something may help, Steps 4 - 5:
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/datrec.htm
>
> Also possibly Acronis Disk Director:
> http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/diskdirectorsuite/partition...covery.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "praetor" <praetor.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0BF57D95-4528-47DF-BE14-E8D5504DE85E@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Jupiter - doesnt sound good does it?
> >
> > Any articles or tips on how I might go about recovering the original keys
> > or
> > the profile?
> >
> > Would be grateful for any pointers.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> You need the original keys or profile.
> >> Can you recover either from the formatted drive?
> >> If not, your data is is good as gone.
> >> See the links near the bottom of this page for ways to prevent this type
> >> of
> >> permanent data loss:
> >> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/encrypt.htm
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> >> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> >> http://www.dts-l.org
> >>
> >>
> >> "praetor" <praetor.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:B2E97BAC-8C03-44A0-BCC3-AA61813276D1@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have encountered a bit of a disaster - I encrypted information on my
> >> >hard
> >> > drive, made a copy on a separate drive and then, after several
> >> > problems,
> >> > reformatted my computer using its disks. I have re-loaded the encrypted
> >> > files, but now find I have no access to them. It is the same machine
> >> > and I
> >> > havent really changed any of the settings.
> >> >
> >> > Is there anything I can do to get these files back?
> >> >
> >> > Any help gratefully received.
> >>
> >>
>
>
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