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Bob

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Since: Dec 18, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:55 am
Post subject: Hibernate & Garbage Collection & Finer Points
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My oh my, the activity on this group seems to be getting thin like my
hair...

When you "hibernate" primarily for garbage collection ( the analog to
memory as scandisk is for disk), one would rather not have their
system take a nap. One just wants ME to clean up its used-memory and
unused memory linked lists and then let the user do what ever they
want. Unfortunately, as the name of the mode says, one will have to
hibernate until taking the few steps required to wake up from
hibernation. Those steps might easily take a minute or two. (On our
computer, I have to go get a finger nail clipper but that's another
story).

I know everybody (except me, apparently) has known how to put their
system into hibernation since Y2K but to allow me to be clear on how
I Quickly "collect (memory) garbage", permit me to rewrite the manual
on Hibernate:
1. Click Start then Shutdown then the Drop Down Arrow then Hibernate
then OK. At this point if one keeps a sharp eye on the Shutdown menu,
an icon resembling an Open Door appears then the screen goes black.
Hibernation has begun.

The way to Quick Garbage Collection is the same except, as soon as one
sees the Open Door icon, begin alternately pressing and releasing the
Space Bar about 5 times a second for about 4 seconds. The screen will
go black but for only several (about 4) seconds. Then one will first
see the monitor power LED light up, the system loud speakers will burp
and the monitor screen will come back to life. If one kept the System
Monitor utility program on during this process then they will see the
memory garbage has been taken out also.

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Mike M1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Hibernate & Garbage Collection & Finer Points [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Funny that I have never experienced problems with any of my systems
including those running Win Me and with the exception of my laptop none of
them ever hibernate nor go into stand by. Hibernation is not required for
the efficient running of Win Me however uninformed fiddling with the
system is known to make it run like a slug.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby RemoveThis @gmail.com


Bob <SierraBrother RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> My oh my, the activity on this group seems to be getting thin like my
> hair...
>
> When you "hibernate" primarily for garbage collection ( the analog to
> memory as scandisk is for disk), one would rather not have their
> system take a nap. One just wants ME to clean up its used-memory and
> unused memory linked lists and then let the user do what ever they
> want. Unfortunately, as the name of the mode says, one will have to
> hibernate until taking the few steps required to wake up from
> hibernation. Those steps might easily take a minute or two. (On our
> computer, I have to go get a finger nail clipper but that's another
> story).
>
> I know everybody (except me, apparently) has known how to put their
> system into hibernation since Y2K but to allow me to be clear on how
> I Quickly "collect (memory) garbage", permit me to rewrite the manual
> on Hibernate:
> 1. Click Start then Shutdown then the Drop Down Arrow then Hibernate
> then OK. At this point if one keeps a sharp eye on the Shutdown menu,
> an icon resembling an Open Door appears then the screen goes black.
> Hibernation has begun.
>
> The way to Quick Garbage Collection is the same except, as soon as one
> sees the Open Door icon, begin alternately pressing and releasing the
> Space Bar about 5 times a second for about 4 seconds. The screen will
> go black but for only several (about 4) seconds. Then one will first
> see the monitor power LED light up, the system loud speakers will burp
> and the monitor screen will come back to life. If one kept the System
> Monitor utility program on during this process then they will see the
> memory garbage has been taken out also.

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Bob

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:36 am
Post subject: Re: Hibernate & Garbage Collection & Finer Points [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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It still runs quickly enuf - if the AV isn't running a sweep too. I
decided to look a little deeper when I switched from McAfee (5.0?) to
AVG late last Fall and AVG seemed to perform rather strangely. I put
System Monitor in the Startup folder and my eyes were opened.

We have had a SOHO for about 10 years including Enterprise NT4, a
couple satellite (wife says stalagmite) NT4 web servers and software
dev., and one or two win9xers. I actually thought until late last
year that winME was win2K light. I heard that was MS's original plan
and didn't hear when that changed.

Anyway, the winME box has been pretty lightly used - eMail, a spurt of
MovieMaking a few years back, Excel off and on (wife prefers Quicken
for financial stuff) and a smidge of PowerPoint for presentations to
some volunteers I manage. I like Excel's graphs and VB macros when I
occasionally teach math, Alg., Geom., Calc but not much of that since
last Spring, Way back I encouraged the wife and kid to use Excel and
still like to get students to use it for graphing and encourage them
to use it and macros / scripts in a term project. Also I'm tinkering
with some ideas for tutoring tools. Also out NT4 Systems pooped out
last year, dead PSU, HD crashes, what have you and can't get that
excited about their resurection. What's left is ... winME. Recently
I've been building a little Home Theater box for daughters family
using XP professional. That's about half done.

So my twiddling has been pretty mild - just like to look under the
hood now and then. Starting to get interested in WiFi - I want to add
that to daughter's Home Theater. I like the idea of being able to boot
from an external drive.


I don't think I've taken the wheels off our winME and philosophically
oppose the deliberate planned obsolescence which is too rampant in the
technical world. That's probably why I'm still hanging in with winME -
that and I still have a camcorder I invested $5K in a dozen years back
or so and I'm not at all sure anything else supports it (I'll try it
on XP movie maker here soon).

On Feb 11, 11:55 am, "Mike M" <No_Spam RemoveThis @Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:
> Funny that I have never experienced problems with any of my systems
> including those running Win Me and with the exception of my laptop none of
> them ever hibernate nor go into stand by.  Hibernation is not required for
> the efficient running of Win Me however uninformed fiddling with the
> system is known to make it run like a slug.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.mal... RemoveThis @gmail.com
>
>
>
> Bob <SierraBrot... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> > My oh my, the activity on this group seems to be getting thin like my
> > hair...
>
> > When you "hibernate" primarily for garbage collection ( the analog to
> > memory as scandisk is for disk), one would rather not have their
> > system take a nap. One just wants ME to clean up its used-memory and
> > unused memory linked lists and then let the user do what ever they
> > want. Unfortunately, as the name of the mode says, one will have to
> > hibernate until taking the few steps required to wake up from
> > hibernation.  Those steps might easily take a minute or two.  (On our
> > computer, I have to go get a finger nail clipper but that's another
> > story).
>
> > I know everybody (except me, apparently) has known how to put their
> > system into hibernation since Y2K but to allow me to be clear on how
> > I  Quickly "collect (memory) garbage", permit me to rewrite the manual
> > on Hibernate:
> > 1. Click Start  then Shutdown then the Drop Down Arrow then Hibernate
> > then OK. At this point if one keeps a sharp eye on the Shutdown menu,
> > an icon resembling an Open Door appears then the screen goes black.
> > Hibernation has begun.
>
> > The way to Quick Garbage Collection is the same except, as soon as one
> > sees the Open Door icon, begin alternately pressing and releasing the
> > Space Bar about 5 times a second for about 4 seconds.  The screen will
> > go black but for only several (about 4) seconds. Then one will first
> > see the monitor power LED light up, the system loud speakers will burp
> > and the monitor screen will come back to life. If one kept the System
> > Monitor utility program on during this process then they will see the
> > memory garbage has been taken out also.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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