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Since: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:41 am
Post subject: DNS Internet Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win2000>dns (more info?)
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My hope is to be advised to any insightful article -ideally, a
solution. Being the owner of the company, and the WAN, I'll get
complaints when there is a lingering problem. Last week several
users, advertising department, told me they couldn't access the
company web site to view our ads. I'll use http://company.com in our
conversation. I instructed our Sysadmin to fix it. It's several days
and nothing is corrected.
I elected to investigate because the issue is not fixed. I went to
several computers to look at company.com. The page would not load up.
I went to my personal computer. Company.com came up. I could go to the
company site because I'm not on the network. I'm connected to our ISP
-55.49.x.x. bypassing network services and so forth. The network
users are accessing the internet via the server PDC 192.168.x.x. to
access the internet. Everyone in the world can look at company.com.
except our company users.
I informed our Sysadmin my findings. He said oh yes it's DNA and the
Alias. The situation is unresolved. Is there a remedy here? It feels
so uncomplicated. Our advertising department is frustrated not being
able to interface with clients who are able to inspect our products.
I'm willing to correct this DNS situation if I can be instructed. We
run Windows 2000 PDC Domain Controller. 2000 Terminal Server, Citrix.
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Since: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:13 am
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On Dec 30, 9:34 am, "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <PleaseAs....TakeThisOut@SomeDomain.com>
wrote:
> Innews:0f28a6d4-8426-45ca-bd0d-728cb6460f5e@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
> Parvardigar <parvardi....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> typed:
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> > My hope is to be advised to any insightful article -ideally, a
> > solution. Being the owner of the company, and the WAN, I'll get
> > complaints when there is a lingering problem. Last week several
> > users, advertising department, told me they couldn't access the
> > company web site to view our ads. I'll usehttp://company.comin our
> > conversation. I instructed our Sysadmin to fix it. It's several days
> > and nothing is corrected.
>
> > I elected to investigate because the issue is not fixed. I went to
> > several computers to look at company.com. The page would not load up.
> > I went to my personal computer. Company.com came up. I could go to the
> > company site because I'm not on the network. I'm connected to our ISP
> > -55.49.x.x. bypassing network services and so forth. The network
> > users are accessing the internet via the server PDC 192.168.x.x. to
> > access the internet. Everyone in the world can look at company.com.
> > except our company users.
>
> > I informed our Sysadmin my findings. He said oh yes it's DNA and the
> > Alias. The situation is unresolved. Is there a remedy here? It feels
> > so uncomplicated. Our advertising department is frustrated not being
> > able to interface with clients who are able to inspect our products.
> > I'm willing to correct this DNS situation if I can be instructed. We
> > run Windows 2000 PDC Domain Controller. 2000 Terminal Server, Citrix.
> > Thanks for any help.
>
> I'm thinking the same thing as Meinolf, that the internal AD and external
> public zone are the same name.
>
> All you would have to do, if this is the case, is manually create a www
> record under company.com pointing to the private 192.168.x.x address.
> Unfortunately trying to connect to http://company.com is a little more
> complex since the names are the same and will conflict with the the netlogon
> service registered LdapIpAddress. If you want to make this happen, you can
> install IIS on each and every DC, and then under the default website on each
> machine, configure a redirect tohttp://www.company.com.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
> MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
I'll want to respond. For several years we were just fine accessing
our web site. No problems. Recently the sysadmin altered something. I
need to figure out how to return to 'normal'. My second comment:
Thanks for looking into this topic. I'll want to study your comments,
again. I came into work to look into this a little deeper. I did a
ping from the client machine our server name ping company.com
Pinging company.com [192.168.254.5] with 32 bytes of data
Reply from 192.168.254.13: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.254.13: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.254.13: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.254.13: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
From my independent machine:
Ping company.com
Reply from 82.90.166.34: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 82.90.166.34: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 82.90.166.34: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 82.90.166.34. bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
I'll want to thoroughly study your comments to figure out exactly how
to get from internal domain company.com to our website page
index.company.com armed with the knowledge that both are the same
names. At least I'm getting informed, as I become involved.
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Since: Aug 27, 2007 Posts: 314
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:41 am
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Hello Parvardigar,
So you can open the website from the internet and not from the internal network?
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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> My hope is to be advised to any insightful article -ideally, a
> solution. Being the owner of the company, and the WAN, I'll get
> complaints when there is a lingering problem. Last week several
> users, advertising department, told me they couldn't access the
> company web site to view our ads. I'll use http://company.com in our
> conversation. I instructed our Sysadmin to fix it. It's several days
> and nothing is corrected.
>
> I elected to investigate because the issue is not fixed. I went to
> several computers to look at company.com. The page would not load up.
> I went to my personal computer. Company.com came up. I could go to the
> company site because I'm not on the network. I'm connected to our ISP
> -55.49.x.x. bypassing network services and so forth. The network
> users are accessing the internet via the server PDC 192.168.x.x. to
> access the internet. Everyone in the world can look at company.com.
> except our company users.
>
> I informed our Sysadmin my findings. He said oh yes it's DNA and the
> Alias. The situation is unresolved. Is there a remedy here? It feels
> so uncomplicated. Our advertising department is frustrated not being
> able to interface with clients who are able to inspect our products.
> I'm willing to correct this DNS situation if I can be instructed. We
> run Windows 2000 PDC Domain Controller. 2000 Terminal Server, Citrix.
> Thanks for any help.
> >> Stay informed about: DNS Internet |
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Since: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 238
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:34 pm
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In news:0f28a6d4-8426-45ca-bd0d-728cb6460f5e@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
Parvardigar <parvardigar.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> typed:
> My hope is to be advised to any insightful article -ideally, a
> solution. Being the owner of the company, and the WAN, I'll get
> complaints when there is a lingering problem. Last week several
> users, advertising department, told me they couldn't access the
> company web site to view our ads. I'll use http://company.com in our
> conversation. I instructed our Sysadmin to fix it. It's several days
> and nothing is corrected.
>
> I elected to investigate because the issue is not fixed. I went to
> several computers to look at company.com. The page would not load up.
> I went to my personal computer. Company.com came up. I could go to the
> company site because I'm not on the network. I'm connected to our ISP
> -55.49.x.x. bypassing network services and so forth. The network
> users are accessing the internet via the server PDC 192.168.x.x. to
> access the internet. Everyone in the world can look at company.com.
> except our company users.
>
> I informed our Sysadmin my findings. He said oh yes it's DNA and the
> Alias. The situation is unresolved. Is there a remedy here? It feels
> so uncomplicated. Our advertising department is frustrated not being
> able to interface with clients who are able to inspect our products.
> I'm willing to correct this DNS situation if I can be instructed. We
> run Windows 2000 PDC Domain Controller. 2000 Terminal Server, Citrix.
> Thanks for any help.
I'm thinking the same thing as Meinolf, that the internal AD and external
public zone are the same name.
All you would have to do, if this is the case, is manually create a www
record under company.com pointing to the private 192.168.x.x address.
Unfortunately trying to connect to http://company.com is a little more
complex since the names are the same and will conflict with the the netlogon
service registered LdapIpAddress. If you want to make this happen, you can
install IIS on each and every DC, and then under the default website on each
machine, configure a redirect to http://www.company.com.
--
Regards,
Ace
This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer
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Since: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 238
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:15 am
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In news:0243e59a-c299-45d7-a8f8-df81dd196363@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com,
Parvardigar <parvardigar DeleteThis @yahoo.com> typed:
> I'll want to respond. For several years we were just fine accessing
> our web site. No problems. Recently the sysadmin altered something. I
> need to figure out how to return to 'normal'. My second comment:
>
> Thanks for looking into this topic. I'll want to study your comments,
> again. I came into work to look into this a little deeper. I did a
> ping from the client machine our server name ping company.com
>
> Pinging company.com [192.168.254.5] with 32 bytes of data
>
> Reply from 192.168.254.13: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
> Reply from 192.168.254.13: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
> Reply from 192.168.254.13: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
> Reply from 192.168.254.13: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
>
> From my independent machine:
>
> Ping company.com
> Reply from 82.90.166.34: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
> Reply from 82.90.166.34: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
> Reply from 82.90.166.34: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
> Reply from 82.90.166.34. bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
>
> I'll want to thoroughly study your comments to figure out exactly how
> to get from internal domain company.com to our website page
> index.company.com armed with the knowledge that both are the same
> names. At least I'm getting informed, as I become involved.
>
> Thanks
You are welcome. The differences in the responses to your pings would be
dependendent on what DNS servers it is querying. In an AD infrastructure,
you MUST only use the internal DNS. Apparently the independent machine, as
you mentioned in a previous post, is using the ISP's. Of course this is not
a good solution for AD members because it will cause numerous problems.
When you ping company.com, it will respond with one of the LdapIpAddresses
in DNS. They are the addresses of all your DCs in the form of (and each DC
will register this record because the AD's netlogon service registers it. It
is an important record that you do NOT want to mess with:
(same as parent) A 192.168.254.13
(same as parent) A 192.168.254.x
etc
Is 82.90.166.34 the actual address of your website? Are you hosting it
internally or somewhere else on the Internet??
I am not sure what the admin did to 'fix' or change something, but if
192.168.254.13 is a DC, then it is working properly. What happens when you
ping www.company.com from an internal machine?
If you are hosting the website internall, then manually create the www
record with the internal webserver's private IP.
If it is being hosted externally, manually create the www record with the
external IP of 82.90.166.34, assuming that is the IP.
In any case, assuming the internal domain name and the external public
domain name is the same, the internal users, to make it easier, must NOT use
http://company.com. They should use www.company.com only, unless you want to
go thru the additional steps I previously mentioned.
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Since: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 238
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:20 am
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In news:OFYp9R3SIHA.4104@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
Ace Fekay [MVP] <PleaseAskMe DeleteThis @SomeDomain.com> typed:
Also, one more thing, if the website is hosted externally, the ISP may
change the IP address of the website. If the ISP uses a web server farm,
meaning multiple IPs point back to the website, then I can see this being a
problem. To handle that, instead of creating www wtih the external IP, I
would suggest to create a delegation:
rt-click company.com, choose delegation, type in www, and provide the
external publicly held DNS servers' addresses. This way it will always
query those servers for the current IP.
This post is of course assuming it is being held externally.
If internal, my other post explains how to take care of it.
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Since: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:39 am
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On Dec 30, 10:20 pm, "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <PleaseAs....DeleteThis@SomeDomain.com>
wrote:
> Innews:OFYp9R3SIHA.4104@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> Ace Fekay [MVP] <PleaseAs....DeleteThis@SomeDomain.com> typed:
>
> Also, one more thing, if the website is hosted externally, the ISP may
> change the IP address of the website. If the ISP uses a web server farm,
> meaning multiple IPs point back to the website, then I can see this being a
> problem. To handle that, instead of creating www wtih the external IP, I
> would suggest to create a delegation:
>
> rt-click company.com, choose delegation, type in www, and provide the
> external publicly held DNS servers' addresses. This way it will always
> query those servers for the current IP.
>
> This post is of course assuming it is being held externally.
>
> If internal, my other post explains how to take care of it.
>
> Ace
I'm very grateful for your attentions. This DNS is becoming clearer.
Our website www.company.com is external. Company.com is internal.
Internal we have 192.168.254.13 company.com
External we have 82.90.166.34 www.company.com
When I pinged www.company.com prior to implementing your instructions
I received 'unknown host www.company.com'
Then 'rt-click company.com, choose delegation, type in www, and
provide the external publicly held DNS servers' addresses.' -I
followed these instructions. Now I'm able to receive 192.168.254.13
www.laeyeworks.com. It's working -almost. I'm not getting out to the
internet. I'm directed to the company-pdc 192.168.254.13
At least I am progressing. From DNS Server I rt click Company.com >
New Delegation .
The FQDN indicates 'Company.com'. I could only type in 'www' in order
to apply 'next'. The next screen my options were 'add and ip'. Into
'Add' I typed in www.company.com. I typed into IP '82.90.166.34' . I
was allowed to proceed to finish.
After this procedure I could ping www.company.com. The host was found.
That was good news. But it's picking up the company.com pdc
192.168.254.13. Even though the delegations instructions are "NS
www.company.com IP 82.90.166.34" -DNS is kicking the instructions into
www.company.com 192.168.254.13
The smell of success feels so close. Please let me know how to force
DNS to accept 82.90.166.34 www.company.com -and this should fix the
company's users ability to access, via the internet, www.company.com
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Since: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 238
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:54 pm
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In news:1002fc69-8504-44a1-a785-069268ab200c@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com,
Parvardigar <parvardigar.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> typed:
> On Dec 30, 10:20 pm, "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <PleaseAs....DeleteThis@SomeDomain.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm very grateful for your attentions. This DNS is becoming clearer.
> Our website www.company.com is external. Company.com is internal.
> Internal we have 192.168.254.13 company.com
> External we have 82.90.166.34 www.company.com
> When I pinged www.company.com prior to implementing your instructions
> I received 'unknown host www.company.com'
>
> Then 'rt-click company.com, choose delegation, type in www, and
> provide the external publicly held DNS servers' addresses.' -I
> followed these instructions. Now I'm able to receive 192.168.254.13
> www.laeyeworks.com. It's working -almost. I'm not getting out to the
> internet. I'm directed to the company-pdc 192.168.254.13
>
> At least I am progressing. From DNS Server I rt click Company.com >
> New Delegation .
> The FQDN indicates 'Company.com'. I could only type in 'www' in order
> to apply 'next'. The next screen my options were 'add and ip'. Into
> 'Add' I typed in www.company.com. I typed into IP '82.90.166.34' . I
> was allowed to proceed to finish.
>
> After this procedure I could ping www.company.com. The host was found.
> That was good news. But it's picking up the company.com pdc
> 192.168.254.13. Even though the delegations instructions are "NS
> www.company.com IP 82.90.166.34" -DNS is kicking the instructions into
> www.company.com 192.168.254.13
>
> The smell of success feels so close. Please let me know how to force
> DNS to accept 82.90.166.34 www.company.com -and this should fix the
> company's users ability to access, via the internet, www.company.com
>
> Thanks
If you did the following:
> Then 'rt-click company.com, choose delegation, type in www, and
> provide the external publicly held DNS servers' addresses.' -I
> followed these instructions. Now I'm able to receive 192.168.254.13
> www.laeyeworks.com. It's working -almost. I'm not getting out to the
> internet. I'm directed to the company-pdc 192.168.254.13
Then it will not work. I specifically said when creating the www delegation,
to supply the external DNS servers that are SOA of the public zone. These
are the two DNS servers hosting your external zone.
Non-authoritative answer:
laeyeworks.com nameserver = ns416.hostgator.com
laeyeworks.com nameserver = ns415.hostgator.com
>
Try that with the delegation and let me know.
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Since: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:36 am
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On Dec 31 2007, 2:54 pm, "Ace Fekay [MVP]"
<PleaseAs... DeleteThis @SomeDomain.com> wrote:
> Innews:1002fc69-8504-44a1-a785-069268ab200c@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com,
> Parvardigar <parvardi... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> typed:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 30, 10:20 pm, "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <PleaseAs... DeleteThis @SomeDomain.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > I'm very grateful for your attentions. This DNS is becoming clearer.
> > Our websitewww.company.comis external. Company.com is internal.
> > Internal we have 192.168.254.13 company.com
> > External we have 82.90.166.34www.company.com
> > When I pingedwww.company.comprior to implementing your instructions
> > I received 'unknown hostwww.company.com'
>
> > Then 'rt-click company.com, choose delegation, type in www, and
> > provide the external publicly held DNS servers' addresses.' -I
> > followed these instructions. Now I'm able to receive 192.168.254.13
> >www.laeyeworks.com. It's working -almost. I'm not getting out to the
> > internet. I'm directed to the company-pdc 192.168.254.13
>
> > At least I am progressing. From DNS Server I rt click Company.com >
> > New Delegation .
> > The FQDN indicates 'Company.com'. I could only type in 'www' in order
> > to apply 'next'. The next screen my options were 'add and ip'. Into
> > 'Add' I typed inwww.company.com. I typed into IP '82.90.166.34' . I
> > was allowed to proceed to finish.
>
> > After this procedure I could pingwww.company.com. The host was found.
> > That was good news. But it's picking up the company.com pdc
> > 192.168.254.13. Even though the delegations instructions are "NS
> >www.company.comIP 82.90.166.34" -DNS is kicking the instructions into
> >www.company.com192.168.254.13
>
> > The smell of success feels so close. Please let me know how to force
> > DNS to accept 82.90.166.34www.company.com -and this should fix the
> > company's users ability to access, via the internet,www.company.com
>
> > Thanks
>
> If you did the following:
>
> > Then 'rt-click company.com, choose delegation, type in www, and
> > provide the external publicly held DNS servers' addresses.' -I
> > followed these instructions. Now I'm able to receive 192.168.254.13
> >www.laeyeworks.com. It's working -almost. I'm not getting out to the
> > internet. I'm directed to the company-pdc 192.168.254.13
>
> Then it will not work. I specifically said when creating the www delegation,
> to supply the external DNS servers that are SOA of the public zone. These
> are the two DNS servers hosting your external zone.
> Non-authoritative answer:
> laeyeworks.com nameserver = ns416.hostgator.com
> laeyeworks.com nameserver = ns415.hostgator.com
>
>
>
> Try that with the delegation and let me know.
>
I understand your comment on SOA external DNS server. I did an edit on
www delegation changing to ns415.hostgator.com ns416.hostgator.com
with the appropriate ip address. I can ping the ip address,
successfully. I can ping ns416.hostgator.com, successfully. I can do
this on the internal computers, successfully, and the external
computer, successfully. I am unable to open our web page using the IE
browser, internally.
I went into the server room to inspect the PDC. Using the browser I
was invited to log in to the web site? This event was unexpected. Once
logged in as Admin the cryptic message stated: "You do not currently
have a default document set for your users. Any users attempting to
connect to this site are currently receiving an 'under construction
page'. And that is exactly what is happening internally. This login
feature, and the message delivered, is -unexpected. This anomaly
should have been corrected long ago. These last several weeks our ad
department agonized wanting to have unfettered access to the web site.
Is there a solution with this current development? This scenario is
totally unexpected. I can't figure out what is unfolding behind the
scenes. At least the delegation fits and I am most appreciative. Again
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:12 pm
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On Jan 1, 10:14 am, "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <PleaseAs....DeleteThis@SomeDomain.com>
wrote:
> Innews:5745c5bc-1b1e-4a31-b4fa-1fc0016bcf47@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com,
> Parvardigar <parvardi....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> typed:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I understand your comment on SOA externalDNSserver. I did an edit on
> > www delegation changing to ns415.hostgator.com ns416.hostgator.com
> > with the appropriate ip address. I can ping the ip address,
> > successfully. I can ping ns416.hostgator.com, successfully. I can do
> > this on the internal computers, successfully, and the external
> > computer, successfully. I am unable to open our web page using the IE
> > browser, internally.
>
> > I went into the server room to inspect the PDC. Using the browser I
> > was invited to log in to the web site? This event was unexpected. Once
> > logged in as Admin the cryptic message stated: "You do not currently
> > have a default document set for your users. Any users attempting to
> > connect to this site are currently receiving an 'under construction
> > page'. And that is exactly what is happening internally. This login
> > feature, and the message delivered, is -unexpected. This anomaly
> > should have been corrected long ago. These last several weeks our ad
> > department agonized wanting to have unfettered access to the web site.
> > Is there a solution with this current development? This scenario is
> > totally unexpected. I can't figure out what is unfolding behind the
> > scenes. At least the delegation fits and I am most appreciative. Again
> > thanks for your attentions.
>
> Ok, maybe I am misunderstanding your setup. Maybe it's me? I am getting
> somewhat confused with your responses and your configuration as you are
> describing it. I think it maybe coming down to terminology and not being
> specific on your part? I am not sure, therefore I am asking you to be very
> specific in future responses.
>
> 1. Are you sayin your website is hosted externally AND internally?? Or is it
> just externally?
>
> 2. When you went to the server room to "inspect" your DC (notice - there is
> no such thing as a PDC with Windows 2000 and newer, that is an old NT4
> term), what was the exact URL you type in the browser?
>
> Note:
> If you typed inhttp://laeyeworks.comand you got your local machine's
> website or one of the DC's IIs, then that is TOTALLY expected. If you did
> not get that, then I would imagine something is wrong with AD.
>
> Ace- Hide quoted text -
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Yes. It may be terminology. Sorry. I'm from the NT days. The website
is hosted externally. Within the company we would want to simply type
in www.laeyeworks.com - Which is what I did at the client machine(s).
I elected to log into the Server (DC). I opened up IE. I typed into
the address bar www.laeyeworks.com. I did not type in http://laeyeworks.com
That's when (all this is new to me) the login interface appeared
prompting me to log into laeyeworks.com. Username; Password; Domain.
That's when the cryptic message appeared. And to my surprise IIs type
information was presented.
We never did use IIS. Internally the company is a database/ financial
enterprise. It looks as though the sysadmin may be experimenting. I
don't know.
The web site is hosted externally. If the ad department wants to alter
content the web creator is instructed. When the website is updated
(externally) our ad department is notified. That's when they go onto
the webpage to view the update. However, recently, the last several
weeks, we have lost that ability to view our website.
I hope this comment helps. And I apologize for my amateurish non
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:14 pm
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In news:5745c5bc-1b1e-4a31-b4fa-1fc0016bcf47@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com,
Parvardigar <parvardigar.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> typed:
> I understand your comment on SOA external DNS server. I did an edit on
> www delegation changing to ns415.hostgator.com ns416.hostgator.com
> with the appropriate ip address. I can ping the ip address,
> successfully. I can ping ns416.hostgator.com, successfully. I can do
> this on the internal computers, successfully, and the external
> computer, successfully. I am unable to open our web page using the IE
> browser, internally.
>
> I went into the server room to inspect the PDC. Using the browser I
> was invited to log in to the web site? This event was unexpected. Once
> logged in as Admin the cryptic message stated: "You do not currently
> have a default document set for your users. Any users attempting to
> connect to this site are currently receiving an 'under construction
> page'. And that is exactly what is happening internally. This login
> feature, and the message delivered, is -unexpected. This anomaly
> should have been corrected long ago. These last several weeks our ad
> department agonized wanting to have unfettered access to the web site.
> Is there a solution with this current development? This scenario is
> totally unexpected. I can't figure out what is unfolding behind the
> scenes. At least the delegation fits and I am most appreciative. Again
> thanks for your attentions.
Ok, maybe I am misunderstanding your setup. Maybe it's me? I am getting
somewhat confused with your responses and your configuration as you are
describing it. I think it maybe coming down to terminology and not being
specific on your part? I am not sure, therefore I am asking you to be very
specific in future responses.
1. Are you sayin your website is hosted externally AND internally?? Or is it
just externally?
2. When you went to the server room to "inspect" your DC (notice - there is
no such thing as a PDC with Windows 2000 and newer, that is an old NT4
term), what was the exact URL you type in the browser?
Note:
If you typed in http://laeyeworks.com and you got your local machine's
website or one of the DC's IIs, then that is TOTALLY expected. If you did
not get that, then I would imagine something is wrong with AD.
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Since: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 238
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:26 pm
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In news:5db6d625-0618-4921-be9e-41e0d733b1b0@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com,
Parvardigar <parvardigar RemoveThis @yahoo.com> typed:
> Yes. It may be terminology. Sorry. I'm from the NT days. The website
> is hosted externally. Within the company we would want to simply type
> in www.laeyeworks.com - Which is what I did at the client machine(s).
> I elected to log into the Server (DC). I opened up IE. I typed into
> the address bar www.laeyeworks.com. I did not type in
> http://laeyeworks.com That's when (all this is new to me) the login
> interface appeared
> prompting me to log into laeyeworks.com. Username; Password; Domain.
> That's when the cryptic message appeared. And to my surprise IIs type
> information was presented.
>
> We never did use IIS. Internally the company is a database/ financial
> enterprise. It looks as though the sysadmin may be experimenting. I
> don't know.
>
> The web site is hosted externally. If the ad department wants to alter
> content the web creator is instructed. When the website is updated
> (externally) our ad department is notified. That's when they go onto
> the webpage to view the update. However, recently, the last several
> weeks, we have lost that ability to view our website.
>
> I hope this comment helps. And I apologize for my amateurish non
> technical syntax.
Ok, external. Good. Thank you.
I would like you to delete whatever delegation is created. If a www record
exists, delete that to.
Now create a new delegation for www under the zone laeyeworks.com and
provide the two DNS servers I previously posted:
ns416.hostgator.com [70.87.170.35]
ns415.hostgator.com [70.87.170.35]
Once that is done:
1. In DNS, rt-click the DNS server name and choose Delete Cache (this
deletes the DNS server's cached lookups so it will get a fresh resolution
for you).
2. On the workstation you are testing it on, go into a CMD prompt, type in
ipconfig /flushdns (this clears the local resolver cache).
3. Open a browser, go to Intenet Options, and delete your temp files. This
deletes previously connected data).
4. Connect to www.laeyeworks.com
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Since: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:05 am
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On Jan 1, 6:26 pm, "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <PleaseAs....TakeThisOut@SomeDomain.com>
wrote:
> Innews:5db6d625-0618-4921-be9e-41e0d733b1b0@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com,
> Parvardigar <parvardi....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> typed:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yes. It may be terminology. Sorry. I'm from the NT days. The website
> > is hosted externally. Within the company we would want to simply type
> > inwww.laeyeworks.com- Which is what I did at the client machine(s).
> > I elected to log into the Server (DC). I opened up IE. I typed into
> > the address barwww.laeyeworks.com. I did not type in
> >http://laeyeworks.comThat's when (all this is new to me) the login
> > interface appeared
> > prompting me to log into laeyeworks.com. Username; Password; Domain.
> > That's when the cryptic message appeared. And to my surprise IIs type
> > information was presented.
>
> > We never did use IIS. Internally the company is a database/ financial
> > enterprise. It looks as though the sysadmin may be experimenting. I
> > don't know.
>
> > The web site is hosted externally. If the ad department wants to alter
> > content the web creator is instructed. When the website is updated
> > (externally) our ad department is notified. That's when they go onto
> > the webpage to view the update. However, recently, the last several
> > weeks, we have lost that ability to view our website.
>
> > I hope this comment helps. And I apologize for my amateurish non
> > technical syntax.
>
> Ok, external. Good. Thank you.
>
> I would like you to delete whatever delegation is created. If a www record
> exists, delete that to.
>
> Now create a new delegation for www under the zone laeyeworks.com and
> provide the two DNS servers I previously posted:
> ns416.hostgator.com [70.87.170.35]
> ns415.hostgator.com [70.87.170.35]
>
> Once that is done:
> 1. In DNS, rt-click the DNS server name and choose Delete Cache (this
> deletes the DNS server's cached lookups so it will get a fresh resolution
> for you).
>
> 2. On the workstation you are testing it on, go into a CMD prompt, type in
> ipconfig /flushdns (this clears the local resolver cache).
>
> 3. Open a browser, go to Intenet Options, and delete your temp files. This
> deletes previously connected data).
>
> 4. Connect towww.laeyeworks.com
>
> Ace- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I feel as though I'm dismantling a bomb. And will proceed cautiously.
I created the www delegation -as instructed -and that is the
delegation I deleted. I was confused with 'delete whatever delegation
is created' as I don't think any additional delegations where created
other than the one delegation that we created, and that delegation was
deleted.
I'm now creating a new delegation. I open the Delegation Wizard. The
FQDN is .laeyworks.com. As I type ns416.hotgator.com in 'Delegated
domain' 'next' becomes disabled after suppling the period at the end
of ns416.(hostgator.com). Thus the 'delegated domain' string becomes
disabled at this point in the string ns416.laeyeworks.com.
Over the last couple days we did, via this exchange, create the new
delegation. Now I'm slightly perplexed that in this current instance I
am unable to create this new delegation.
Incrementally proceding.
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Since: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 238
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:59 pm
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In news:361ab1b5-ee49-4996-9d05-3598471ca6e4@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
Parvardigar <parvardigar RemoveThis @yahoo.com> typed:
> I feel as though I'm dismantling a bomb. And will proceed cautiously.
> I created the www delegation -as instructed -and that is the
> delegation I deleted. I was confused with 'delete whatever delegation
> is created' as I don't think any additional delegations where created
> other than the one delegation that we created, and that delegation was
> deleted.
I meant to delete any delegation I previously suggested to make so we can
start fresh with the www delegation. I should have been more specific to
instruct you in this. I did not want you to delete any other delegations,
that is if you were to have any created previous to our conversatations. I
apologize for assuming otherwise.
>
> I'm now creating a new delegation. I open the Delegation Wizard. The
> FQDN is .laeyworks.com. As I type ns416.hotgator.com in 'Delegated
> domain' 'next' becomes disabled after suppling the period at the end
> of ns416.(hostgator.com). Thus the 'delegated domain' string becomes
> disabled at this point in the string ns416.laeyeworks.com.
Honestly, creating a delegation is not that difficult. I am surprised we are
having difficulties creating it. I just did it on one of my client's
production machine without a problem. I am not sure where you are having a
problem. Also, I am not exactly sure what you mean by:
> ...Thus the 'delegated domain' string becomes
> disabled at this point in the string ns416.laeyeworks.com.
Follow these steps:
1. ping ns416.hotgator.com
2. ping ns415.hotgator.com
3. Rt-click laeyeworks.com, choose NEW DELEGATION
4. Click NEXT
5. Type in 'www' (without the quotes)
6. Click ADD
7. Type in 'ns416.hostgator.com' (without the quotes and without an ending
period)
8. Click RESOLVE. Once you hit the resolve button, you will see two entries
in the list now:
66.45.252.236
66.45.252.237
9. Click OK
10. Click ADD again
11. Type in 'ns415.hostgator.com' (without the quotes and without an ending
period)
12. Click RESOLVE. Once you hit the resolve button, you will see two entries
in the list now:
66.45.252.236
66.45.252.237
13. Then hit the OK button.
14. Click NEXT
15. Click FINISH
16. Test it by opening up a web browser and type in
http://www.laeyeworks.com
17. Do NOT use http://laeyeworks.com
18. Tell everyone to ONLY use http://www.laeyeworks.com
>
> Over the last couple days we did, via this exchange, create the new
> delegation. Now I'm slightly perplexed that in this current instance I
> am unable to create this new delegation.
> Incrementally proceding.
> Thanks
There's nothing to be preplexed about this. It's one of the more simpler
tasks in DNS.
Good luck sir.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:42 am
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On Jan 2, 8:59 pm, "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <PleaseAs....DeleteThis@SomeDomain.com>
wrote:
> Innews:361ab1b5-ee49-4996-9d05-3598471ca6e4@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
> Parvardigar <parvardi....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> typed:
>
> > I feel as though I'm dismantling a bomb. And will proceed cautiously.
> > I created the www delegation -as instructed -and that is the
> > delegation I deleted. I was confused with 'delete whatever delegation
> > is created' as I don't think any additional delegations where created
> > other than the one delegation that we created, and that delegation was
> > deleted.
>
> I meant to delete any delegation I previously suggested to make so we can
> start fresh with the www delegation. I should have been more specific to
> instruct you in this. I did not want you to delete any other delegations,
> that is if you were to have any created previous to our conversatations. I
> apologize for assuming otherwise.
>
>
>
> > I'm now creating a new delegation. I open the Delegation Wizard. The
> > FQDN is .laeyworks.com. As I type ns416.hotgator.com in 'Delegated
> > domain' 'next' becomes disabled after suppling the period at the end
> > of ns416.(hostgator.com). Thus the 'delegated domain' string becomes
> > disabled at this point in the string ns416.laeyeworks.com.
>
> Honestly, creating a delegation is not that difficult. I am surprised we are
> having difficulties creating it. I just did it on one of my client's
> production machine without a problem. I am not sure where you are having a
> problem. Also, I am not exactly sure what you mean by:
>
> > ...Thus the 'delegated domain' string becomes
> > disabled at this point in the string ns416.laeyeworks.com.
>
> Follow these steps:
>
> 1. ping ns416.hotgator.com
> 2. ping ns415.hotgator.com
> 3. Rt-click laeyeworks.com, choose NEW DELEGATION
> 4. Click NEXT
> 5. Type in 'www' (without the quotes)
> 6. Click ADD
> 7. Type in 'ns416.hostgator.com' (without the quotes and without an ending
> period)
> 8. Click RESOLVE. Once you hit the resolve button, you will see two entries
> in the list now:
> 66.45.252.236
> 66.45.252.237
> 9. Click OK
> 10. Click ADD again
> 11. Type in 'ns415.hostgator.com' (without the quotes and without an ending
> period)
> 12. Click RESOLVE. Once you hit the resolve button, you will see two entries
> in the list now:
> 66.45.252.236
> 66.45.252.237
> 13. Then hit the OK button.
> 14. Click NEXT
> 15. Click FINISH
> 16. Test it by opening up a web browser and type inhttp://www.laeyeworks.com
> 17. Do NOT usehttp://laeyeworks.com
> 18. Tell everyone to ONLY usehttp://www.laeyeworks.com
>
>
>
> > Over the last couple days we did, via this exchange, create the new
> > delegation. Now I'm slightly perplexed that in this current instance I
> > am unable to create this new delegation.
> > Incrementally proceding.
> > Thanks
>
> There's nothing to be preplexed about this. It's one of the more simpler
> tasks in DNS.
>
> Good luck sir.
>
> Ace
I'm compelled to respond. And I do apologize. Thank you for your
patience, and infinite indulgence. When I type in
'ns416.hostgator.com' and click on resolve the entry that appears is
70.87.170.35. When I type in 'ns415.hostgator.com' and click on
resolve the entry that appears is 70.87.170.35.
Thus when I finish supplying the information 'ns416.hostgator'
'ns415.hostgator' there is only one entry 70.87.170.35 for both
hostgator.com instances.
I do feel the solution may be eminent. Had the entries 66.45.254.236,
66.45.254.237 come up after hitting the resolve button that may have
been the turning point. Unfortunately only the single entry appeared
70.87.170.35
Sincerely
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