KB 174567: NT 3.51 AGP fix -- where to download?

Hi Calvin,

I have the SP 5 applied and my ATI All in WOnder (8MB) does get 640x480
at 16 colors but nothing higher than that. In Main, Windows NT Setup,
Display isn't even listed, just mouse and keyboard.

I too archived all of the post sp5 fixes however none of them are
specific to agp. I put a request in to msft support on this however I
doubt that I will hear anything back on the location of the fix.

THx
\
~Von


Calvin wrote:

> Are you sure it wasn't tackled in NT 3.51 SP5 ?? I'm certain I've had
> my machine here running on NT3.51 with a Matrox G400 AGP card and
> everything functioned correctly. I know I hadn't applied any AGP
> specific patches.
>
> There were several 'Post SP5' hotfixes for NT3.51 - they are still
> available on the Microsoft FTP server - Q174567 is not amongst them.
>
> Calvin.
 >> Stay informed about: KB 174567: NT 3.51 AGP fix -- where to download? 

Hi John,

Unfortunately, you didn't read his post properly He's looking for a
Windows NT V3.51 patch !

Calvin.
 >> Stay informed about: KB 174567: NT 3.51 AGP fix -- where to download? 

Ah, I see.

John

Calvin wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Unfortunately, you didn't read his post properly He's looking for a
> Windows NT V3.51 patch !
>
> Calvin.
 >> Stay informed about: KB 174567: NT 3.51 AGP fix -- where to download? 

Hi Von,

~Von wrote:

> MS KB Article ID 174567
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=174567
> Last Review : September 23, 2005
>
> States:
> Microsoft has confirmed this [lack of AGP support] to be a problem in
> Windows NT version 3.51. A supported fix is now available, but has not
> been fully regression tested and should be applied only to systems
> experiencing this specific problem. Unless you are severely impacted by
>
> this specific problem, Microsoft recommends that you wait for the next
> Service Pack that contains this fix. Contact Microsoft Technical
> Support for more information.
>
>
> Does anyone know where to download this "fix"?

I've done a thorough search of my own archives and the 'net and
unfortunately I can't find any references to this fix

Are you sure it wasn't tackled in NT 3.51 SP5 ?? I'm certain I've had
my machine here running on NT3.51 with a Matrox G400 AGP card and
everything functioned correctly. I know I hadn't applied any AGP
specific patches.

There were several 'Post SP5' hotfixes for NT3.51 - they are still
available on the Microsoft FTP server - Q174567 is not amongst them.

Calvin.
 >> Stay informed about: KB 174567: NT 3.51 AGP fix -- where to download? 

Hi ~Von,

I can't help you either but I've had a lot of similar problems in the past.
AFAIK you've got 3 options:

1. getting a patched hal.dll (that's what you were looking for)
2. running your card in AGP1X mode - should work if you are able to force it to
AGP1X
3. get a vendor NT3.51 driver that supports AGP2x (ore more?)

Concerning 3:
I'm not sure what chipset is used in your card. There are a lot of different
(and differently aged) all-in-wonders out, aren't they?
So find this out first. (I haven't got much ATI-cards and not a single one in
the last 10 years...). By the chipset you may find a vendor who sold a card with
the same chipset (the brand most likely won't matter!!!). Asus, Creative and I
think a lot of other vendors did supply AGP drivers even for NT3.51 in the past
(I think they did hardly more than switching it to AGP1X mode). I guess your
card is too new for this, but e.g. for NVIDIA cards you *can* use drivers from
precursor models without problems e.g. on WfW3.1 / NT 3/4 (e.g. Riva 128 drivers
for Geforce2) because they distinguish in Direct3D or other "new" features only
what doesn't matter here,
However, if your card is pretty new, you may want to get an older one....

Stephan


~Von wrote:

> Hi Calvin,
>
> I have the SP 5 applied and my ATI All in WOnder (8MB) does get 640x480
> at 16 colors but nothing higher than that. In Main, Windows NT Setup,
> Display isn't even listed, just mouse and keyboard.
>
> I too archived all of the post sp5 fixes however none of them are
> specific to agp. I put a request in to msft support on this however I
> doubt that I will hear anything back on the location of the fix.
>
 >> Stay informed about: KB 174567: NT 3.51 AGP fix -- where to download?