Long delay during POST

dadiOH wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|
|>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does
|>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in
|>>> another drive, install Windows, test.
|>>>
|>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to
|>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using
|>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?
|>>
|>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows
|>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks
|>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
|>
|> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
|> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
|
| Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or "system".
| Thanks for the reply.

You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was
Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!

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|
| dadiOH
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 >> Stay informed about: Long delay during POST 

The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.

--
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www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
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> dadiOH wrote:
> | PCR wrote:
> |
> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does
> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in
> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.
> |>>>
> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to
> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using
> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?
> |>>
> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows
> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks
> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
> |>
> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
> |
> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or "system".
> | Thanks for the reply.
>
> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was
> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!
>
> | --
> |
> | dadiOH
> | ____________________________
> |
> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Long delay during POST 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in news:u4nNd84cIHA.4696
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
> corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
>

Yes, my error. For clarification, if the first screen stays for a long
time, the correct statement is that POST did occur, is finished, and the
delay afterword is after POST?

ms
 >> Stay informed about: Long delay during POST 

I've seen SCSI do that. If SCSI is detected, some SCSI BIOS's will
try to walk the entire SCSI bus to scan for devices, one at a time. That
means reset and timeout for each device in order.


"ms" <ms.DeleteThis@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net...
> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before windows
> starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10 seconds
> delay in other computers.
>
> Included for info:
> autoexec.bat
> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4
> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM
> Set tvdumpflags=8
>
> config.sys
> numlock = off
>
> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?
>
> ms
 >> Stay informed about: Long delay during POST 

In which case try Boot Log Analyzer v1.23 (freeware) to determine the
bottleneck.
Still available at :-
http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/bootloganalyzer123.html

Mart


"ms" <ms DeleteThis @invalid.com> wrote in message
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> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in news:u4nNd84cIHA.4696
> @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
>> corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
>>
>
> Yes, my error. For clarification, if the first screen stays for a long
> time, the correct statement is that POST did occur, is finished, and the
> delay afterword is after POST?
>
> ms
 >> Stay informed about: Long delay during POST 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
| corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.

That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did
figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't blame
dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but you beat
us to it!

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> dadiOH wrote:
|> | PCR wrote:
|> |
|> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does
|> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in
|> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.
|> |>>>
|> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to
|> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using
|> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?
|> |>>
|> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows
|> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks
|> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
|> |>
|> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
|> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
|> |
|> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or
|> | "system". Thanks for the reply.
|>
|> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was
|> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!
|>
|> | --
|> |
|> | dadiOH
|> | ____________________________
|> |
|> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
|> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
|> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
|> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net

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Should things get worse after this,
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 >> Stay informed about: Long delay during POST 

It was me:
"glee" wrote in message news:egPvzXqcIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

<quote>

My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of Windows, and that "ms"
mistakenly referred to the delay as being during POST.

</quote>
--
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http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:ePB3DyDdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> | The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
> | corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
>
> That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did
> figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't blame
> dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but you beat
> us to it!
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> |> dadiOH wrote:
> |> | PCR wrote:
> |> |
> |> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> |> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does
> |> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in
> |> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.
> |> |>>>
> |> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to
> |> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using
> |> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?
> |> |>>
> |> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows
> |> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks
> |> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
> |> |>
> |> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
> |> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
> |> |
> |> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or
> |> | "system". Thanks for the reply.
> |>
> |> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was
> |> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!
> |>
> |> | --
> |> |
> |> | dadiOH
> |> | ____________________________
> |> |
> |> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> |> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> |> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> |> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Long delay during POST 

glee wrote:
| It was me:

Yep, that was it. I clicked every post thrice but never saw it again!
But I might have guessed it was you. Very good, as usual. I'm busy in
Warren's thread & must go soon.

| "glee" wrote in message news:egPvzXqcIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|
| <quote>
|
| My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of Windows,
| and that "ms" mistakenly referred to the delay as being during POST.
|
| </quote>
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
| http://dts-l.net/
| http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:ePB3DyDdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> | The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the
|> | technical corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
|>
|> That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did
|> figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't
|> blame dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but
|> you beat us to it!
|>
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | www.grystmill.com
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> |> dadiOH wrote:
|> |> | PCR wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> |> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers"
|> |> |>>> does not make it not normal for the machine in front of you.
|> |> |>>> Put in another drive, install Windows, test.
|> |> |>>>
|> |> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds
|> |> |>>> to load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys
|> |> |>>> using MSCONFIG. Any change?
|> |> |>>
|> |> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before
|> |> |>> Windows even starts to load and it is Windows that loads
|> |> |>> drivers, checks config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
|> |> |>
|> |> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
|> |> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
|> |> |
|> |> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or
|> |> | "system". Thanks for the reply.
|> |>
|> |> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as
|> |> was Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton
|> |> back!
|> |>
|> |> | --
|> |> |
|> |> | dadiOH
|> |> | ____________________________
|> |> |
|> |> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
|> |> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
|> |> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
|> |> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net
 >> Stay informed about: Long delay during POST 

That you did. Got lost in the forest.

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"glee" <glee29.TakeThisOut@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:uqJ9OEKdIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> It was me:
> "glee" wrote in message news:egPvzXqcIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> <quote>
>
> My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of Windows, and
> that "ms"
> mistakenly referred to the delay as being during POST.
>
> </quote>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:ePB3DyDdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> | The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
>> | corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
>>
>> That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did
>> figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't blame
>> dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but you beat
>> us to it!
>>
>> | --
>> | Gary S. Terhune
>> | MS-MVP Shell/User
>> | www.grystmill.com
>> |
>> | "PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> | news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> |> dadiOH wrote:
>> |> | PCR wrote:
>> |> |
>> |> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> |> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does
>> |> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in
>> |> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.
>> |> |>>>
>> |> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to
>> |> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using
>> |> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?
>> |> |>>
>> |> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows
>> |> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks
>> |> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
>> |> |>
>> |> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
>> |> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
>> |> |
>> |> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or
>> |> | "system". Thanks for the reply.
>> |>
>> |> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was
>> |> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!
>> |>
>> |> | --
>> |> |
>> |> | dadiOH
>> |> | ____________________________
>> |> |
>> |> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
>> |> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
>> |> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
>> |> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
>> |>
>> |> --
>> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
>> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
>> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
>> |> Should things get worse after this,
>> |> PCR
>> |> pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net
>>
>> --
>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>> Should things get worse after this,
>> PCR
>> pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net
>>
>>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Long delay during POST